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09-06-2007 , 12:28 AM
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Tired of this zionist puppet Sean Hannity attacking Ron Paul. This guy is a disgrace and has no class. Just another one of Ruport Murdochs puppets.
He destroyed RP and exposed him for the clown he is.
LOL! More like the other way around. Hannity brings up the great Ronald Reagan and Paul brings up how Reagan retreated from Lebanon and the Republicans didn't call him a cut and runner then for doing so and compares his foreign policy to Bush's in 2000. Hannity brings up bringing down the Soviet Union and Paul replies, yeah and we didn't have to invade their country to do it. I'd say the winner of Paul vs. Hannity Round 2 was Ron Paul.
youre delusional. Paul tried to deny the history of Iraq leading up to the war and avoided the fact that Reagan's policies, whether they involved invasion or not, were to deal from strength, not withdrawal.
Being savvy enough to realize a self-defeating strategy before squandering the treasury, the lives of your men and women, the lives of innocent foreigners, and the prestige of your nation IS a strength. Being pigheaded, arrogant, and ignorant of history isn't a strength.
Gutting your intelligence capabilities and a policy that approaches isolationism are a sure road to failure.
09-06-2007 , 12:48 AM
Ron Paul and Colmes team up to absolutely crush Hannity in the post-debate.

The war on drugs is a huge waste of money. Here's Ron Paul's thoughts on the war on drugs.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88REf0tjZHo
09-06-2007 , 12:54 AM
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Ron Paul and Colmes team up to absolutely crush Hannity in the post-debate.

The war on drugs is a huge waste of money. Here's Ron Paul's thoughts on the war on drugs.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88REf0tjZHo
I already know them, and he's wrong, just as you are wrong.
09-06-2007 , 01:01 AM
Hannity's good at yelling and interrupting people but he's not in nearly the same class as Ron Paul at debating. You are lying if you think Hannity could ever win a debate against Ron Paul.

They could flip sides on the issue and Ron Paul would probably still win.
09-06-2007 , 01:10 AM
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Hannity's good at yelling and interrupting people but he's not in nearly the same class as Ron Paul at debating. You are lying if you think Hannity could ever win a debate against Ron Paul.

They could flip sides on the issue and Ron Paul would probably still win.
Paul appeared senile, he couldnt get his facts straight. Thats not what I call effective debating.
09-06-2007 , 01:19 AM
Copernicus,

Did you actually watch the debate or are you just restating all your preconceived notions? Do you need to see the clips again?
09-06-2007 , 01:42 AM
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Yeah paul looked a little frazzled tonight.

Can anyone else hear audible laughing on the microphones? Whomever is doing it is rather immature.
The laughing was Giuliani and it was a very bad move on his part. No matter whom the viewers support, that type of behavior is definitely frowned upon and it certainly won't help to gain the support of people who have yet to decide.

It was remarkably arrogant and unprofessional while also tactically foolish.
09-06-2007 , 01:47 AM
Republicans, Paul clash over Iraq war

The AP article certainly has an interesting title.
09-06-2007 , 01:58 AM
paul was excellent tonight. fire and brimstone, I loved it.

"I take my marching orders from the constitution."

what. a. badass.
09-06-2007 , 02:03 AM
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lol, paul is winning the text in vote.
proof how meaningless those polls are
What are the chances these txt polls could translate into an actual turn out for voting? And why is there no mention on Fox about the margin by which Ron Paul is winning "their poll"?
There was. Hannity said it was frantic use of the redial button or something to that effect.
I tried to call twice just to see if you could. I got a recording saying I had already voted.

But don't let the facts interfere with Fox News.
09-06-2007 , 02:06 AM
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Copernicus,

Did you actually watch the debate or are you just restating all your preconceived notions? Do you need to see the clips again?
I watched it twice. The only surprise was Tancredo was actually fairly coherent and rational.
09-06-2007 , 02:08 AM
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Yeah paul looked a little frazzled tonight.

Can anyone else hear audible laughing on the microphones? Whomever is doing it is rather immature.
The laughing was Giuliani and it was a very bad move on his part. No matter whom the viewers support, that type of behavior is definitely frowned upon and it certainly won't help to gain the support of people who have yet to decide.

It was remarkably arrogant and unprofessional while also tactically foolish.
"First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win."

M Gandhi
09-06-2007 , 02:11 AM
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Anyone else find them selves screaming at the TV "Your an IDIOT!!!#^$%$*U#&" ?
I bet there's a liberal hate fest somewhere that everyone is doing that.
I suspect there's much more mocking like I read on Kos than serious hate going on. That whole Larry Craig thing has us all in a good mood.
09-06-2007 , 02:13 AM
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"First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win."

M Gandhi
Perfectly sums up this debate. They ignored by not giving Ron Paul very many questions until the other candidates started fighting with him, then Guiliani started laughing whenever Ron Paul was about to be asked a question and Ron Paul ended up winning.
09-06-2007 , 02:14 AM
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lol, paul is winning the text in vote.
proof how meaningless those polls are
What are the chances these txt polls could translate into an actual turn out for voting? And why is there no mention on Fox about the margin by which Ron Paul is winning "their poll"?
There was. Hannity said it was frantic use of the redial button or something to that effect.
I tried to call twice just to see if you could. I got a recording saying I had already voted.

But don't let the facts interfere with Fox News.
Which is easily circumvented by blocking your number. Just because RP is too backward to figure that out it doesnt mean all of his supporters are. Apparently it got past you though.
09-06-2007 , 02:14 AM
Copernicus loves:

-Muslim-nuking
-War on Drugs
-War on anything really
-Wire-tapping/Other Spying
-Federal Reserve
-Abortion
-Death Penalty
-General Violence/Coercion

Copernicus hates:

-Capitalism
-Sound money
-Bodily freedom (except abortion)
-Valuing human life
-Anything involving liberty/freedom

Can this be a real account, or is borodog/pvn behind this trying to look as authoritarian as possible?

The terrorists don't actually hate us for our freedom - but Copernicus does!
09-06-2007 , 02:22 AM
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09-06-2007 , 02:29 AM
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lol, paul is winning the text in vote.
proof how meaningless those polls are
What are the chances these txt polls could translate into an actual turn out for voting? And why is there no mention on Fox about the margin by which Ron Paul is winning "their poll"?
There was. Hannity said it was frantic use of the redial button or something to that effect.
I tried to call twice just to see if you could. I got a recording saying I had already voted.

But don't let the facts interfere with Fox News.
Which is easily circumvented by blocking your number. Just because RP is too backward to figure that out it doesnt mean all of his supporters are. Apparently it got past you though.
Can we take this one step further and conclude all the supporters for candidates besides Ron Paul are too backwards to figure things out? Finally we agree.
09-06-2007 , 02:31 AM
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lol, paul is winning the text in vote.
proof how meaningless those polls are
What are the chances these txt polls could translate into an actual turn out for voting? And why is there no mention on Fox about the margin by which Ron Paul is winning "their poll"?
There was. Hannity said it was frantic use of the redial button or something to that effect.
I tried to call twice just to see if you could. I got a recording saying I had already voted.

But don't let the facts interfere with Fox News.
Which is easily circumvented by blocking your number. Just because RP is too backward to figure that out it doesnt mean all of his supporters are. Apparently it got past you though.
Can we take this one step further and conclude all the supporters for candidates besides Ron Paul are too backwards to figure things out? Finally we agree.
a more reasonable conclusion would be that they arent fanatics who think its fun to distort a poll, so no, we dont agree.
09-06-2007 , 02:39 AM
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lol, paul is winning the text in vote.
proof how meaningless those polls are
What are the chances these txt polls could translate into an actual turn out for voting? And why is there no mention on Fox about the margin by which Ron Paul is winning "their poll"?
There was. Hannity said it was frantic use of the redial button or something to that effect.
I tried to call twice just to see if you could. I got a recording saying I had already voted.

But don't let the facts interfere with Fox News.
Which is easily circumvented by blocking your number. Just because RP is too backward to figure that out it doesnt mean all of his supporters are. Apparently it got past you though.
Can we take this one step further and conclude all the supporters for candidates besides Ron Paul are too backwards to figure things out? Finally we agree.
a more reasonable conclusion would be that they arent fanatics who think its fun to distort a poll, so no, we dont agree.
I suspected that it might be a blocked number thing. But, if thats the case, why the hell would they take any votes from blocked numbers. Sure seems like an extremely easy thing to fix.
09-06-2007 , 02:42 AM
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lol, paul is winning the text in vote.
proof how meaningless those polls are
What are the chances these txt polls could translate into an actual turn out for voting? And why is there no mention on Fox about the margin by which Ron Paul is winning "their poll"?
There was. Hannity said it was frantic use of the redial button or something to that effect.
I tried to call twice just to see if you could. I got a recording saying I had already voted.

But don't let the facts interfere with Fox News.
Which is easily circumvented by blocking your number. Just because RP is too backward to figure that out it doesnt mean all of his supporters are. Apparently it got past you though.
Can we take this one step further and conclude all the supporters for candidates besides Ron Paul are too backwards to figure things out? Finally we agree.
a more reasonable conclusion would be that they arent fanatics who think its fun to distort a poll, so no, we dont agree.
I suspected that it might be a blocked number thing. But, if thats the case, why the hell would they take any votes from blocked numbers. Sure seems like an extremely easy thing to fix.
To not limit the total number of votes, since so many people block their cell phones. That may change after tonite though. A small count is better than a rigged one.
09-06-2007 , 02:44 AM
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To not limit the total number of votes, since so many people block their cell phones. That may change after tonite though. A small count is better than a rigged one.
WTF are you talking about?
09-06-2007 , 02:48 AM
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To not limit the total number of votes, since so many people block their cell phones. That may change after tonite though. A small count is better than a rigged one.
WTF are you talking about?
I dont understand your question.
09-06-2007 , 02:49 AM
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lol, paul is winning the text in vote.
proof how meaningless those polls are
What are the chances these txt polls could translate into an actual turn out for voting? And why is there no mention on Fox about the margin by which Ron Paul is winning "their poll"?
There was. Hannity said it was frantic use of the redial button or something to that effect.
I tried to call twice just to see if you could. I got a recording saying I had already voted.

But don't let the facts interfere with Fox News.
Which is easily circumvented by blocking your number. Just because RP is too backward to figure that out it doesnt mean all of his supporters are. Apparently it got past you though.
Can we take this one step further and conclude all the supporters for candidates besides Ron Paul are too backwards to figure things out? Finally we agree.
a more reasonable conclusion would be that they arent fanatics who think its fun to distort a poll, so no, we dont agree.
I suspected that it might be a blocked number thing. But, if thats the case, why the hell would they take any votes from blocked numbers. Sure seems like an extremely easy thing to fix.
To not limit the total number of votes, since so many people block their cell phones. That may change after tonite though. A small count is better than a rigged one.
Do you have any proof that RP supporters were successfully circumventing the system by blocking their cell phones, but supporters of other candidates weren't, and that this is the reason for the poll result being what it is? If so, please provide it.
09-06-2007 , 02:52 AM
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To not limit the total number of votes, since so many people block their cell phones. That may change after tonite though. A small count is better than a rigged one.
WTF are you talking about?
I dont understand your question.
Try answering one or more of the following...
<ul type="square">[*]Are you seriously claiming that "so many people block their cell phones"? [*]In your best estimate, what percentage of people blocked their cell phone number when calling / texting for this poll?[/list]

      
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