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07-09-2009 , 06:15 PM
It's early, but I never get to start these things.

Besides, here's some news about the witness list:

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We have the witness list for the Sonia Sotomayor hearings in the Senate Judiciary Committee, and a few names will ring a bell with people. Testifying for the majority, and presumably providing a favorable view of the judge, will be New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg, former Major League Baseball pitcher David Cone, Louis Freeh, former Director, Federal Bureau of Investigation, New York Congressman Jose Serrano and Rep. Nydia Velázquez, Chair of the Congressional Hispanic Caucus.
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Testifying for the minority, meaning they'll give information that Republicans want public, will be Frank Ricci, the plaintiff in the firefighters' reverse discrimination case that the Supreme Court recently overturned, and Linda Chavez, the nominee for Secretary of Labor under George W. Bush who withdrew her name in the face of a difficult nomination hearing.

The hearings begin Monday at 10 a.m. EST, and will likely last all week.
Who will be more irrelevant in determining her qualifications: David Cone or Frank Ricci?
07-09-2009 , 06:17 PM
Might as well include the rest of the witness list, from that same link:

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Majority Witnesses:
Chuck Canterbury, National President, Fraternal Order of Police
JoAnne A. Epps, Dean, Temple University Beasley School of Law, on behalf of the National Association of Women Lawyers
Michael J. Garcia, former U.S. Attorney, Southern District of New York
Wade Henderson, President and CEO of the Leadership Conference on Civil Rights
Patricia Hynes, President, New York City Bar Association
Dustin McDaniel, Attorney General, State of Arkansas
Robert Morgenthau, former District Attorney, New York County, New York
Ramona Romero, National President, Hispanic National Bar Association
Theodore M. Shaw, Professor, Columbia Law School
Kate Stith, Lafayette S. Foster Professor of Law, Yale Law School

Minority Witnesses:

Sandy Froman, Esq., Former President, National Rifle Association of America
Dr. Stephen Halbrook, Attorney
Tim Jeffries, Founder, P7 Enterprises
Peter Kirsanow, Commissioner, U.S. Commission on Civil Rights
David Kopel, Esq., Independence Institute
John McGinnis, Professor, Northwestern University School of Law
Neomi Rao, Professor, George Mason University School of Law
David Rivkin, Esq., Partner, Baker Hostetler
Nick Rosenkranz, Professor, Georgetown University School of Law
Ilya Somin, Professor, George Mason University School of Law
Lieutenant Ben Vargas, New Haven Fire Department
Dr. Charmaine Yoest, Americans United for Life
07-09-2009 , 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Wynton
Who will be more irrelevant in determining her qualifications: David Cone or Frank Ricci?
Dunno, man. Chavez sounds pretty damn irrelevant, too.
07-09-2009 , 07:29 PM
Connection to David Cone?
07-09-2009 , 07:32 PM
lol @ Frank Ricci. I can't wait for his insight.
07-09-2009 , 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by JayTeeMe
Connection to David Cone?
Sotomayor ended the MLB strike in 1994, Cone was probably an MLB players rep and had hearings with her.
07-09-2009 , 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by istewart
lol @ Frank Ricci. I can't wait for his insight.
Is Sonia Sotomayor the reason the white man can't catch a break? It's going to be endless blowhard blah blah meow chow from the GOP, asking many pointed questions about how hard Ricci worked, how many burdens he overcame, how he spent his entire after-tax salary on study materials (what was left after Obama took the rest and handed it over to black people for hub caps, plasmas, sneakers and jewelry), and how Sotomayor crushed his dreams by handing his promotion to undeserving black people, the end.
07-09-2009 , 07:47 PM
Ricci conceivably could also testify about what he observed during the oral argument of his appeal, e.g., "she was rude to my side" and didn't even listen seriously to the arguments of my attorneys.

But it will probably just be the kind of personal history stuff Dvaut mentioned.
07-09-2009 , 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Wynton
Ricci conceivably could also testify about what he observed during the oral argument of his appeal, e.g., "she was rude to my side" and didn't even listen seriously to the arguments of my attorneys.

But it will probably just be the kind of personal history stuff Dvaut mentioned.
They're not mutually exclusive, I'm sure Sessions is capable of asking Ricci how many hours he studied despite all the hurdles AND ask how many times Sotomayor took a nap under her sombrero while Ricci tried to tearfully make his case in front of her.
07-09-2009 , 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by DVaut1
Is Sonia Sotomayor the reason the white man can't catch a break? It's going to be endless blowhard blah blah meow chow from the GOP, asking many pointed questions about how hard Ricci worked, how many burdens he overcame, how he spent his entire after-tax salary on study materials (what was left after Obama took the rest and handed it over to black people for hub caps, plasmas, sneakers and jewelry), and how Sotomayor crushed his dreams by handing his promotion to undeserving black people, the end.
Yes, damn that bastard for believing hard work and study should be rewarded. We should definitely "LOL" at him as Istewart said. A guy who worked hard and did was he was supposed to do and yet was denied a promotion he earned. What a joke of a man.
07-09-2009 , 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by JackWhite
Yes, damn that bastard for believing hard work and study should be rewarded. We should definitely "LOL" at him as Istewart said. A guy who worked hard and did was he was supposed to do and yet was denied a promotion he earned. What a joke of a man.
Someone can tell that story and get all indignant on the next John Stossel 20/20 special or something; it has nothing to do with Sotomayor or the law. I get that some emotional people love random indignant rants and I understand that what happened to Ricci is unfair, in the sense that the result doesn't comport with his deserts, and the fact that this unfair thing happened to a white guy, and that this is all politically convenient for the GOP, but the Sotomayor confirmation hearings are ostensibly about her qualifications as a judge and not just opportunities for dog and pony shows.
07-09-2009 , 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted by DVaut1
Sotomayor ended the MLB strike in 1994,
the fact that she thinks it is ok of a federal court to even think about intervening in an MLB issue is enough reason to boot her out right there.
07-09-2009 , 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted by DVaut1
Obama took the rest and handed it over to black people for hub caps,

RIMS YOU IGNORANT HONKEY ....
07-10-2009 , 12:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Wynton
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Who will be more irrelevant in determining her qualifications: David Cone or Frank Ricci?
This is all political theatre but I guess they've got to go through with the hearing process nonetheless. Might as well have a little political theatre to liven things up. Sotomayor is a lock and it's not even going to be close.

Last edited by adios; 07-10-2009 at 12:20 AM.
07-10-2009 , 12:25 AM
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Originally Posted by NeBlis
the fact that she thinks it is ok of a federal court to even think about intervening in an MLB issue is enough reason to boot her out right there.
Here's an article about her role in the MLB strike for those interested.

Sotomayor’s Baseball Ruling Lingers, 14 Years Later
07-10-2009 , 12:36 AM
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Originally Posted by DVaut1
Is Sonia Sotomayor the reason the white man can't catch a break? It's going to be endless blowhard blah blah meow chow from the GOP, asking many pointed questions about how hard Ricci worked, how many burdens he overcame, how he spent his entire after-tax salary on study materials (what was left after Obama took the rest and handed it over to black people for hub caps, plasmas, sneakers and jewelry), and how Sotomayor crushed his dreams by handing his promotion to undeserving black people, the end.

Where is your empathy?
07-10-2009 , 12:41 AM
DVaut killing it ITT
07-10-2009 , 12:43 AM
Steele really ****ed this whole thing up, by the way. He needed to send a message to his troops to let this one through the way the Dems didn't care about Roberts. Instead it's been a bunch of high profile attacks by isolated factions, but she's still gonna get confirmed in a landslide.
07-10-2009 , 01:35 AM
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Originally Posted by FlyWf
Steele really ****ed this whole thing up, by the way. He needed to send a message to his troops to let this one through the way the Dems didn't care about Roberts. Instead it's been a bunch of high profile attacks by isolated factions, but she's still gonna get confirmed in a landslide.
why.

SC nominations are free money. None of the senators being aggressive will depend on hispanic votes in their reelection campaigns.
07-10-2009 , 01:42 AM
I'd assume mainly because if you don't have a cohesive message it shows one fault people think the GOP has right now: No real leadership, fractures. Also, it would help play into the Dem's portrayal of the the GOP as just a party 'of no'.
07-10-2009 , 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by DVaut1
doesn't comport with his deserts
Dvaut, not to side track, but is this a real phrase?

I ask, because I tend to make stuff up in the heat of the moment, and I'm hoping I'm not the only one.
07-10-2009 , 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Ineedaride2
Dvaut, not to side track, but is this a real phrase?

I ask, because I tend to make stuff up in the heat of the moment, and I'm hoping I'm not the only one.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desert_%28philosophy%29
07-10-2009 , 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by adios
Here's an article about her role in the MLB strike for those interested.

Sotomayor’s Baseball Ruling Lingers, 14 Years Later
So if I'm reading this right, if she didnt intervene then baseball would have fractured and maybe never recovered? I knew I hated this woman she had the chance to plunge a stake into the heart of baseball and blew it.
07-10-2009 , 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by NeBlis
So if I'm reading this right, if she didnt intervene then baseball would have fractured and maybe never recovered? I knew I hated this woman she had the chance to plunge a stake into the heart of baseball and blew it.
Pirate fan?
07-10-2009 , 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Wynton
Pirate fan?
Braves, iirc.

20 years of close seconds will do that to a person.

      
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