BTW, nice edits to this post after reporting my post and having it removed. Why on earth would I ever even try to have a civil conversation with you anyways?

I didn't report your post and don't have the power to remove them. I don't think you did anything wrong? You can take it up with whatever overzealous mod and whatever report-happy user decided to pull the trigger. But I'm being completely honest when I say I didn't report your post (I don't even know which one it was) and found nothing worthy of reporting. So:

I know you saw the post because you responded. (then ninja within 5 min edited after mine was gone) Someone else saw it too and reported. I assumed it was you but could have been anybody and mods won't tell me. It was deleted because I called you a "total tard" in my response.

Goodbye DVaut1.

[edit]: editing so I don't get deleted again.

Surprisingly, I don't get teary eyed and cry for mod intervention whenever someone random internet user calls me a tard. Then again, I'm an adult, so that may have something to do with it.

I hope whichever mod gave you the points undoes it. I honestly don't care. Have the mod PM me or something.

This is why the modding standards here are pretty silly: mods, reds, oranges: I do not care if someone wants to call me a total tard. Please stop infracting people for it. We're all, or should be, adults here. If brian gets his rocks off calling me a total tard, I don't care. You're giving people infraction points for personal attacks when the "person" under attack couldn't give a flying **** about said attacks. If this isn't a textbook case of busybody overmodding, I don't know what is.

Whoever is reporting such posts: I do not care if someone wants to call me a total tard. Please stop reporting such posts.

If you read the post it wasn't meant as an insult just frustration. I get my rocks off on other things.

This is like your third goodbye. You have more retirement problems than Brett Favre.

Every time I go to block you, you've ninja-edited one of your posts or made a new one. You have one quick, sly pony.

edit: I think I'll be reported and this post deleted, btw, for saying I am blocking you. Oh well. I guess I should rack up a couple and keep up with the times.

Anywho, back on topic for Sully:



Article

Why was he testifying before Congress? As shown in Capitalism: A Love Story.

Give me a break. He's a political shill.

Of course, this is on Huffington Post, but this sort of stuff makes me sick:

I didn't come here to debate Libertarianism, the TSA, the Federal Govt, or why it makes me sick, Wynton. Just poasting some LC stuff in the LC thread.

If you post something it's fair game for rebuttal, IMO. LC thread can have debate too.

I'm fine with having a debate. My point is that Sully is quickly becoming a political shill. Debate away.

If anyone wants to know why it makes me sick, we can start a thread about the TSA? Wynton's post reeked of snark though and I doubt he gives a damn why it makes me sick.

I didn't report the post in question, don't know what post you guys are referring to and don't think I've ever reported a post.

But I don't think this is solely about the "victim" of the name-calling. Tolerating such behavior can detract from the quality of a thread and forum, regardless of whether the target has tough enough skin not to care.

To put it simply, I support the mods' efforts to regulate conduct, even if the standards for doing so are elusive.

Is there anyone else here who thinks the idea of reporting posts is completely silly? It's like being a tatle-tail in elementary school.

I think that it's probably a necessary evil in a large forum, assuming that one accepts the premise of moderation in the first instant.

I agree that having a low treshold for reporting posts is silly, but I can see legitimate reasons to report a post. Spam / racism / abuse / etc.

I've only ever reported spam IIRC

I am about as close to AC without being AC as you can be, but you are wrong here.

If the facts he is stating are true, those being:

why would he not want to use his newly found fame to bring attention to that?

Without thinking about it too much, I would say that his conclusion (more govt!) is wrong, and I would assume you think the same way, but having an opinion you disagree with doesn't make him a political shill. He is doing what he thinks is best for him, his family, and his colleagues, with imo little political thought behind it.

What's the difference between what he's doing and what Ralph Nader, John McCain, and countless others do?

Ralph Nader was a consumer's rights advocate who was brought into the national spotlight by a scandal with GM in the 60's. He is now merely a walking political tool.

John McCain was a "war hero" who used his national spotlight to launch a (sickening) political career.

Sully isn't even a year out from his heroics, and he's on The Daily Show, he's rubbing shoulders at the White House Correspondent's Dinner, and he's got multi-million dollar book deals - all the while, he's at Congress testifying that we need more regulation and that pilots aren't paid enough.

And he's spewing this same crap on The Daily Show. If we do not sufficiently value? Who is "we", him and his magic utilometer that decides how much we "ought" to value the airline industry? The market is the only thing that will decide his wage, and if it's too little, then how about looking at the TSA and the giant government monopoly on air travel? To our Country? Great, he managed to work some flag-humping into his spiel.

Are we just disagreeing on the semantics of what you want to call this guy?

I tell you what, you guys have got me interested enough either way that I'm going to pirate his book and read it. I'll probably just wind up cherry-picking some quotes from it but if I'm wrong I'll eat my words. There aren't many Amazon reviews out for it yet and from what I could gather it's a typical "I did an heroic thing, here's that story + my life story + my political agenda". I mean the book is called "Highest Duty", I can only imagine what that implies, but I'm eager to find out.

From his book:

"Over the years, we've lost a good deal of respect from our management, our fellow employees and the general public. The whole concept of being a pilot is diminished, and I worry that safety can be compromised as a result. People used to say that airline pilots were one step below astronauts. Now the joke is: We're one step above bus drivers, but bus drivers have better pensions."

Sullenberger pushes for pilot pay, dignity

Of course this article agrees with him, and this guy admits that ole Sully is pushing an agenda.

I'm just talking to myself now, so goodnight Politards. And pardon my language.

Rational and self-interested?

Yeah, maybe. He wants pilots to make more money and be as safe as possible. Maybe he truly believes more govt is the answer to that.

Aha! He is a liberal.

Party at my house!

Brian, it was at this point that you could've decided to stop digging. You were wrong, case closed.

Screaming about how he's pushing a "statist" agenda is beyond grasping at straws. Goddamn that fireman on CNN earlier, talking about how his team needs more resources. What a ****ing big government liberal statist!