Two of them actually, but both are married.

ANd nothing from the Obama debunking squad? 3 1/2 hours of 'no comment'?

Allow me to step in for them. Variance, IMO.

McCain has been attacking non stop for weeks now, it looks like it has finally worked for him.

I just love how Obama suggests something that will actually save people Gas and money in the end (Inflating Tires correctly and getting regular Tune ups) and Republicans deride him for it for the whole day. Basically the way Republicans think is that we should drill all over our country, drill now and nothing else is acceptable. Moronic.

At first I didn't like the Britney Spears AD but it has done something very very important. It has gotten the base riled up! Talk Radio is finally getting enthusiastic about McCain.

I can't wait fo the AD with the "Just fill up your tires and you don't have to drill LDO" quote in it.

Did anybody hear the President and his family call Rush on his 20th Anniversary today?

Here is the Transcript.
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/dai...106.guest.html

Bush Sr. and Jeb Bush also talked on the phone.

I don't think anyone in this forum has tried to "debunk" positive McCain polls, except the one strange one.

FWIW, I have always thought Obama will lose, and still do, so any polls showing McCain ahead do not surprise me. Americans get what they deserve, imo.

I do think, though, that if Obama was the one running ads comparable to the Britney and Moses and Neo ads that McCain is running, the Republican (and moderate) posters on these boards would be breaking keyboards in their hysteria.

*EDIT: by hysteria I mean hysterically deriding and mocking.

Your Damn right!!

No. Talk radio fears Obama in every way. They still mostly loath McLame but will sell their principles for the non-Obama, even if he's a non-conservative serial apostate to the party.

I am truly blessed by never watching TV.

Rush's anniversary.....Jerry's Birthday..... coincidence?????

Obama Shifts, Says He May Back Offshore Drilling

LOLZ!!!!!

this is kind of the inherent problem. Its choose your side and never give in for a large majority of the country...eventhough that often leads to nothing getting done.

I hated Obama's original..."head in the sand will not budge no matter" what position. Finally he does something that he and McCain both said they will do...try to bring both sides together to get something actually passed.
I'll give u a little of what u want, but then i get a little of what i want.

but it seems in todays liberal vs. conservative 24 hour news cycle that equals "your a pussy" or a "flipflopper" to the partisan douchebags on both sides of the spectrum and god knows changing one's position in order to get something done is just about the worst thing u can do. Better to go with your gut and say its my way or the highway.

This guy is so vulnerable and he keeps doing it to himself.

It's more about 'I'm going to have this position one day' and then next day looking at the polls and saying 'oops, let's do it this way'. It's about sticking to what you believe in rather than compromising your ideals to get elected.

Just so. The man's convictions are a micron deep.

Not that there's anything wrong with being a disingenuous lying scumbag.

lolz...yeah I'm sure Obama was like ZOMG -- people are going crazy over not allowing offshore drilling...I've got to change positions!!!

I guess I want another 4 years of GWB/McCain...cuz those guys def. stick to what they believe in no matter what. Thats shows true leadership.

This is why Obama can't simply say that the surge was more succesfull than he though it would be at defeating the insurgency, and if he had to do it all over again he probably would have voted for it...ZOMG flipflopper...he admitted a mistake, disqualified from being president.
I assume this is why McCain says he'd invade Iraq all over again even in hindsight...but maybe he actually believes it was the right thing to do no matter what...or he's just a stubborn 70 year old who doesn't want to admit that maybe it was a bad idea.

That's exactly what I believe happened.

At least you know what the hell you're voting for

There's a difference in changing your stance because of the polls and changing your stance because you're wrong.

More likely the former.

Well i will give the Republicans, this, after years of blocking all kinds of Energy Bills that would have helped us move past Gas they have certainly framed this current debate well. I don't know if its the Democrat killer they think it is, but if Democrats do not act fast it may hurt them if this snowball continues to grow.

No. It's because Obama has exactly one large foreign policy decision to his credit, one he backed loud and clear, and it was wrong, dead wrong, publicly on the record wrong. There is no backstop here. There's no list of other things he got right, just this one loud and clear ****up. And that's why it can't be admitted.

Being against the Iraq war doesn't count for jack **** when you're a IL State Senator. But as a US Senator, he screwed the pooch on his only important vote.

I am surprised it took so long, it has pretty evident for a long time that public support is with drilling. I guess it took the all negative ads for him to change his mind.

He flipped on supporting nuke plants in a day.

Last I heard, 75% of Americans want more oil produced. Buck that at your peril.

The Dem trump here is that they are facing off against the most worthless Presidential candidate* I can recall with a worthless campaign and a stone brain dead national party.

edit * Just remembered Dole. Ugh.

cept people aren't going crazy over offshore drilling. The media and republicans are just making a huge issue out of it.
People have far more important things to worry over(like the fact they just got laid off or they can't get hired anywhere) and gas prices have been dropping over the last month.

I think its far more likely that someone as smart as Obama saw that there is no way the policies i want get passed as long as I keep holding my ground( A:which hurts Obama, the Dems, and theoretically the citizens they represent) and there is no way I want to allow the Reps pass their policies given (A) and there is also no way that I want the public to think I'm theoretically hurting them just to make a point...so hmm what to do.....oh yeah ****ING support a compromise. Shocker.

I really wish Ron Paul was a viable option to be elected and get **** done once he was Pres. cuz he defenitly would throw the biggest wrench into this ******ed partisan two party political system... I'd probably have to vote for him over Obama or McCain.

Ah yes, the amazing conservative attack line. Obama's opposition to the Iraq war is simply a matter for the history books which bears no relevance to today. On the other hand, his opposition to a tactical shift in troop numbers which was only one of several other factors in reducing violence in Iraq somehow is completely relevant today and shows he has no judgment. Quite the double standard.

cept they are