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Obama vs. McCain: General Election Chatter For August Obama vs. McCain: General Election Chatter For August

08-07-2008 , 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Feltstein
Unfortunately, we are looking at a $500 billion deficit next year that will continue most likely and will go on Obama's watch if Intrade is right (60.9 to 36.9).

1. How much better off do you think we would be right now if Gore were the President today and had continued budget surpluses? 2. Would there even had been a 9/11? 3. Did Osama know what the neo-cons had in store for the Middle East and Saddam? 4. Was 9/11 a "pre-emptive" strike?
1. Who knows and who cares. No one has any idea how Gore would have been as president. He could have been great or he could have started WW3 for all we know.

2. Of course there would have been...thinking anything else is idiotic.
Oh wait...i forgot....Bush was behind 9/11.

3. This whole post is a level right..I hope?

4. God i hate this forum
08-07-2008 , 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by CharlieDontSurf
1. Who knows and who cares. No one has any idea how Gore would have been as president. He could have been great or he could have started WW3 for all we know.

2. Of course there would have been...thinking anything else is idiotic.
Oh wait...i forgot....Bush was behind 9/11.
First you say that there is no way we could know what would have happened if Gore was the Prez. Then you say of course 9/11 would have happened?? Makes no sense to me. Who said Bush was behind 9/11?

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3. This whole post is a level right..I hope?

4. God i hate this forum
No, it wasn't a level. Just some random questions asking "What if" like HP told us to do. I don't think that it is bad to ask "What if" questions to try to understand reality.

Geesh, lighten up Francis.
08-07-2008 , 07:46 PM
I believe it was istewart, just calling for you to be banned. It could have been a snark, I don't know.
08-07-2008 , 08:04 PM
You, too, can be a mindless, rewarded McCain campaign troll.

What, not even as good as comps in a casino?
08-07-2008 , 08:35 PM
So Obama is on vacation now, Would this not be a good time for McCain to announce so he can totally own the press for a week?
08-07-2008 , 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by 4 High
So Obama is on vacation now, Would this not be a good time for McCain to announce so he can totally own the press for a week?
If you mean tomorrow...I'd think Friday -- the same day as the opening ceremonies for the Olympics -- would probably be just about the worst time you'd want to announce major good/positive news in an attempt to capture the news cycle. Friday is for dumping bad news; tomorrow (again, opening ceremonies in Beijing) would be an especially appealing day for a bad news dump.
08-07-2008 , 08:48 PM
I'm not sure which one of you said it; but it's true. They are harping on FOX how Obama is off on vacation to Hawaii while McCain is busy on the campaign trail blah blah blah.

I haven't been watching the other networks much so I don't know how they are reporting it. I've been addicted to FOX and self-inflicted gunshots lately.
08-07-2008 , 08:49 PM
btw I didn't mean tomorrow specifically, Monday would be a good choice for McCain as well i think.
08-07-2008 , 09:16 PM
Man held in Fla. on charge of threatening Obama
32 minutes ago

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MIAMI — A man who authorities said was keeping weapons and military-style gear in his hotel room and car appeared in court Thursday on charges he threatened to assassinate Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama.

Raymond Hunter Geisel, 22, was arrested by the Secret Service on Saturday in Miami and was ordered held at Miami's downtown detention center without bail Thursday by a federal magistrate.

A Secret Service affidavit charges that Geisel made the threat during a training class for bail bondsmen in Miami in late July. According to someone else in the 48-member class, Geisel allegedly referred to Obama with a racial epithet and continued, "If he gets elected, I'll assassinate him myself."


Whomever Obama picks for VP should be good enough to make a solid P, because it is very possible that some racist loon will try.

If you do hear anybody say that they will try to kill him, just call the Secret Service. That will fix their ass for even joking about it. And if they are serious, you would be a hero.
08-07-2008 , 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by ErikTheDread
You, too, can be a mindless, rewarded McCain campaign troll.

What, not even as good as comps in a casino?
You know, I suspected some sort of concerted top-down like this, from the huge volume of straight-up McCain talking points posted on blogs like 538 and TPM. But this "incentive" system is way more interesting and crazy than what I thought was going on.
08-07-2008 , 10:19 PM
No wonder why there are so many Pro-McCain people on 538 just repeating themselves.
08-07-2008 , 10:39 PM
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Originally Posted by crzylgs
You know, I suspected some sort of concerted top-down like this, from the huge volume of straight-up McCain talking points posted on blogs like 538 and TPM. But this "incentive" system is way more interesting and crazy than what I thought was going on.
Its hardly surprising as no one on the planet is excited about a McCain presidency. You have Obama supporters who are excited and anti-Obama people who are excited.

What do we get though? I will copy/paste and "that's not change we can believe in" all day if it gets me a Wii or something.

<----Willing to sell out beliefs for free ****.
08-07-2008 , 10:50 PM
This is honestly coming from a republican, SCREW YOU MCCAIN.


First time in my life im gonna vote for a democrat for prez, cause mccain is so screwed up and will run this country more into the ground than it already is.
08-07-2008 , 10:53 PM
ZOMG IN B4 LOCK!

Obviously the best way at getting back at McCain as a Republican is to vote for Obama.
08-07-2008 , 10:54 PM
I'm not voting for him, but I won't sweat it if he wins.
08-08-2008 , 12:10 AM
I guess we can understand why McCain flipflopped on drilling.

- Exxon employees have given McCain $42,100 to Obama's $35,166.
- Chevron favors McCain $35,157 to $28,500
- McCain edges out Obama with BP $16,046 vs. $11,500.

Also, we know that McSame (BushBot) was for Bush's Energy bill that was filled with tax breaks and handouts to Big Oil.

WTH is it going to take to realize that McCain is a tool of Big Oil?
08-08-2008 , 12:13 AM
another brilliant OP. Well done.
08-08-2008 , 12:15 AM
Lesser of two evils IMO.... but being in Illinois my vote won't count. I will write in Ron Paul so I can sleep well at night.
08-08-2008 , 12:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Ineedaride2
I'm not voting for him, but I won't sweat it if he wins.
lol@saying this with your avatar.
08-08-2008 , 12:22 AM
you will NEVER BE as good as the snowflake.
08-08-2008 , 12:44 AM
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Originally Posted by pokerbobo
Lesser of two evils IMO.... but no matter where I live my single vote won't change who wins, so I should vote FOR WHO I ACTUALLY WANT TO WIN I will write in Ron Paul so I can sleep well at night.
FYP. Whenever someone votes for "lesser of two evils", god kills a puppy.
08-08-2008 , 12:48 AM
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Originally Posted by pokerbobo
another brilliant OP. Well done.
TY, I'm merely exposing teh fraud that is McCain.

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Originally Posted by ChronoDeath
you will NEVER BE as good as the snowflake.
Who is the snowflake? Is he a Republican?
08-08-2008 , 01:03 AM
Bush negotiates without pre-conditions

Why Bush folded on Iran
Reality, of the military and petroleum-based variety, forced the administration to change course. Now Bush sounds like Obama.
By Juan Cole

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July 31, 2008 | Pundits and diplomats nearly got whiplash from the double take they did when George W. Bush sent the No. 3 man in the State Department to sit at a table on July 19 across from an Iranian negotiator, without any preconditions. When Bush had addressed the Israeli Knesset in May, he made headlines by denouncing any negotiation with "terrorists and radicals" as "the false comfort of appeasement." What drove W. to undermine John McCain by suddenly adopting Barack Obama's foreign policy prescription on Iran?
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That in the aftermath, Bush's Iran policy looks more like that of Barack Obama than that of John McCain, is just an indication that Obama is more realistic about the increasing constraints on U.S. foreign policy toward the Middle Eastern oil states than is McCain.

Iran's chief nuclear negotiator, Saeed Jalili, left, at a meeting with U.S. undersecretary of state William Burns, far right, in Geneva July 19, 2008.
08-08-2008 , 01:03 AM
I don't think McCain is going to change his policies because he received an amount of money he could have got easily by scamming Admo.
08-08-2008 , 01:14 AM
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Originally Posted by ScottySo
Lesser of two evils IMO.... but no matter where I live my single vote won't change who wins, so I should vote FOR WHO I ACTUALLY WANT TO WIN I will write in Ron Paul so I can sleep well at night.

You obviously haven't seen the new movie "Swingvote"

      
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