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08-30-2008 , 10:47 PM

#3001

snagglepuss

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cindy mccain is offended by what barack obama has said about her husband

maybe she is just emotionally unstable and back on the percocet and vicodin?

Quote:

In 1989, following two back surgeries, Cindy McCain became addicted to the painkillers Vicodin and Percocet. To keep up with her daily need of 10 to 15 pills, she used other people's names for prescriptions and stole drugs from the American Voluntary Medical Team, a mobile surgical unit she'd begun in 1988 to provide emergency medical services around the world. A 1993 DEA audit of the amount of painkillers her charity had obtained quickly uncovered her thefts. She avoided prosecution for those crimes through an agreement with the Justice Department in which she submitted to drug testing, paid a fine, performed community service in a soup kitchen, and joined Narcotics Anonymous. She also closed her medical charity.

stay classy cindy mccain

edit bonus fun: she not only steals pills, she also likes to steal recipes from poor rachel ray!

double edit: her wiki page has a better summation with citations of her drug addiction, lies, and theft. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cindy_Hensley_McCain

08-30-2008 , 10:47 PM

#3002

sekrah

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ElectricHaZ3

+1...nice post

LOL anything but.

08-30-2008 , 10:50 PM

#3003

4 High

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sekrah is a STRAIGHT UP LIAR.

http://www.pollster.com/polls/fl/08-fl-pres-ge-mvo.php

Any more right wing crap you want me to dispel?

08-30-2008 , 10:51 PM

#3004

sekrah

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jah7_fsu1

The more I learn about Palin and think about the pick, the less it makes sense for me. McCain had just started to really close the gap. Obama was still the likely winner, but by hammering away at inexperience among other things, he had really started to make some ground up. If he had played it safe and went with a Romney he could have continued to hammer away on inexperience while beefing up his economic talks.

The experience game/play is over and worn out and the McCain camp is shifting into the next phase.

Republicans win these national elections because of ISSUES. Anytime there is a national discussion about Small Government vs Social Programs, Republicans win big time.

08-30-2008 , 10:51 PM

#3005

sekrah

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Praetorian Card

Wrong, Rasmussen said his poll was post Pailn (+4 Obama). Ok, I am out for now...

Rasmussen uses rolling numbers too, so give it a few days to sink in.

08-30-2008 , 10:52 PM

#3006

InTheDark

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 4 High

Did any of these women know about Palin's views on Abortion and other social issues? Are these Women Republicans?

74 YO Mahjong junkies don't find the need to kill too many babies in the womb.

08-30-2008 , 10:54 PM

#3007

Wynton

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I'm willing to concede that the Palin announcement distracted or detracted from the Obama speech, cutting into or preventing any additional convention bounce.

But that is an entirely short-sighted concern, and does not validate the choice in the long term. I think we need at least a few weeks for any reliable polling information about Palin.

08-30-2008 , 10:54 PM

#3008

4 High

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Quote:

Originally Posted by sekrah

Rasmussen uses rolling numbers too, so give it a few days to sink in.

Both Gallup and Rasmussen hinted that while McCain polled better on Friday, he was still behind.

08-30-2008 , 10:54 PM

#3009

sekrah

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 4 High

sekrah is a STRAIGHT UP LIAR.

http://www.pollster.com/polls/fl/08-fl-pres-ge-mvo.php

Any more right wing crap you want me to dispel?

LOL.. Liar? McCain still winning Florida despite not spending a single nickle there vs Obama spending around $7 million?

Are you serious?

08-30-2008 , 10:55 PM

#3010

4 High

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Quote:

He was absolutely hammering that state with MILLIONS of bucks for months and he hadn't put a dent in McCain's numbers.

Here you straight up lied. Plain and simple. He took it from an 8 point race to a toss up and brought it within 2. What do you not understand about these numbers? Do i have to count from 2 to 8 for you to get it?

08-30-2008 , 10:56 PM

#3011

jah7_fsu1

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Quote:

Originally Posted by InTheDark

74 YO Mahjong junkies don't find the need to kill too many babies in the womb.

Not pro-choice, against gay rights, against pot, etc. I imagine every one of your conversations with friends starts out "I remember the good old days before..."

If ITD could build a time machine he would go straight to 1900

08-30-2008 , 10:57 PM

#3012

sekrah

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 4 High

Both Gallup and Rasmussen hinted that while McCain polled better on Friday, he was still behind.

LOL.. it's 2 days after the Democratic National Convention and you are celebrating a slim Obama lead? Do you even think before you post?

Post-convention these numbers are an absolute disaster for Hussein.

08-30-2008 , 10:57 PM

#3013

Jack of Arcades

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From 538:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nate sez

Since Obama's speech was well received by voters, one can probably assume that his numbers would be slightly higher had John McCain not announced his VP yesterday. On the other hand, the notion that something was gained by limiting Obama's bounce is silly. The convention bounce almost always fades by itself (it would more aptly be described as a convention 'bubble'). Stopping a bounce is a strategy designed to improve one's standing in the FiveThirtyEight.com polling averages for a day or two, rather than one's chances of actually winning the election.

08-30-2008 , 10:58 PM

#3014

4 High

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Wow, what a horrible poster. Resorting to Hussein? Really? Is that all you have? Where did i celebrate anything? Do you even understand what you are posting half the time?

08-30-2008 , 11:01 PM

#3015

sekrah

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 4 High

I said "he didn't put a dent in McCain's numbers." can you read? Don't they teach Democrats to read?

McCain is polling at the same 47-49% he's been polling at the entire time (with of course an occaisional outlier to 45 or 50).

Obama raised his own numbers yea, but he spent MILLIONS of $$ vs McCain's $0. Would you say Barack got his money worth? If the Democratic math class (as I suspect) is anything like the Democratic reading class, you probably think he did.

08-30-2008 , 11:02 PM

#3016

sekrah

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 4 High

Wow, what a horrible poster. Resorting to Hussein? Really? Is that all you have? Where did i celebrate anything? Do you even understand what you are posting half the time?

Well you call me a liar yet fail to point out where I lied. Instead, like a true liberal revising history, you try to change what I said.

08-30-2008 , 11:04 PM

#3017

4 High

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Ohhhh right I am sure all you meant was keeping McCains numbers up. Please. Obama spent money to make the race tighter, and he did just that. The state is now a toss up. When you move a state from Lean McCain to toss up that is what we call a plus and opening up the battlefield. You are probably one of those people who thinks Montana, Virginia and Nevada aren't in play either.

08-30-2008 , 11:05 PM

#3018

snagglepuss

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i recommend escrowing $ with any wagers placed with sekrah, as he is a relatively busto troll who devotes his time to playing lowstakes mtt's, ignorantly badmouthing durrrr, and posting his extreme, often incorrect viewpoints in this forum and others.

then again almost all bets with anyone should be escrowed

Last edited by snagglepuss; 08-30-2008 at 11:11 PM.

08-30-2008 , 11:07 PM

#3019

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Zogby is back up.

McCain/Palin is up 2 in the head to head, but down 1 in the real 5 way vote.

08-30-2008 , 11:14 PM

#3020

jah7_fsu1

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Quote:

Originally Posted by sekrah

Obama raised his own numbers yea, but he spent MILLIONS of $$ vs McCain's $0. Would you say Barack got his money worth? If the Democratic math class (as I suspect) is anything like the Democratic reading class, you probably think he did.

You are really losing me here. So if Obama raises his numbers and turns Florida into a battleground state how did he not get his money worth? McCain's spending there is really irrelevant. If McCain spends a bunch somewhere and takes a lean Obama to a battleground then it's clearly to his advantage with so much time still before election day.

Go to realclearpolitics.com and look at the electoral map. If Obama would win Florida it is almost impossible for him to lose the election.

08-30-2008 , 11:16 PM

#3021

General Tsao

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Quote:

Originally Posted by sekrah

Again, +200 on McCain to win by 5% isn't better than what I could currently get my money in with +170 to win straight up.

I'm not making a bad wager (comparable to other available wagers) for ego and pride.

lol k, so you think he's going to win by double digits, yet i give you a chance to bet on something that'd be much easier for him to accomplish and you puss out.

08-30-2008 , 11:18 PM

#3022

elwoodblues

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My guess (and I haven't read past page 30 or so, so if this point has been made forgive me) is that McCain picked her to combat what he sees as a central (winning) position of the Obama campaign: Oil vs renewable energy. McCain is betting that he can win the "kick our dependence on foreign oil" argument with the help of someone in the know. He is gambling that her lack of experience is outweighed by the energy position, her gender, and her "maverick" status.

08-30-2008 , 11:21 PM

#3023

4 High

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Problem with that is, she basically endorsed Obama's plan a few weeks back.

08-30-2008 , 11:23 PM

#3024

sekrah

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Taso

lol k, so you think he's going to win by double digits, yet i give you a chance to bet on something that'd be much easier for him to accomplish and you puss out.

Because I can get better value out of something that's even easier for him to accomplish?

Why should I pay $1 for a candy bar from you when I can get it for 50 cents from somewhere else?