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08-17-2012 , 03:34 PM

#626

Riverman

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This thread is a pretty awesome insight into the mind of the small business-owning Republican. Anything good that happens is due to your ingenuity. Anything bad that happens is due to Obama. And when profit declines, the first people to take it in the ass are employees.

08-17-2012 , 03:37 PM

#627

MrWookie

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Quote:

Originally Posted by suzzer99

Obama is like the Sauron of the small business world. All he has to do is turn his evil eye in your direction and everything goes to ****.

Certainly Black Friday and the decline of books in general have nothing to do with 2p2's situation.

Well, I mean, it's hard not to blame Obama for Black Friday, but it's not like the alternative was going to be any better for business in that regard.

08-17-2012 , 03:39 PM

#628

suzzer99

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But lets never think about the UIGEA and which party was 100% responsible for that.

08-17-2012 , 03:44 PM

#629

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****ting on internet gambling is a bipartisan issue imo.

08-17-2012 , 03:44 PM

#630

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Originally Posted by Riverman

Pretty much, but I'd FYP by striking the "small," as it's not like larger business owners don't do precisely the same thing at a greater magnitude.

08-17-2012 , 03:57 PM

#631

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Doc T River

"Virtually everything I stated in that thread came true. Year-end bonuses were ended, salaries were reduced, book sales dropped significantly, author royalties for our more recent authors were reduced, Borders went broke and didn't pay for a bunch of books they ordered (and they ordered almost no books from us their last year of operation), website traffic and revenue is down, and so on.

But there was one positive note. Our landlord reduced our rent since we've hung in there unlike many of the other businesses in our business park.

So where was I disingenuous?

MM"

And none of this would have happened if it weren't for that meddling OBAMA and his TAXES!!!!

lol, where did MM post this? Doesn't 2+2 actually have to, you know, make money before Obama's evil socialist tax plan kicks in?

08-17-2012 , 03:58 PM

#632

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Turn Prophet

Pretty much, but I'd FYP by striking the "small," as it's not like larger business owners don't do precisely the same thing at a greater magnitude.

See: Papa John's douchebag. WOAT pizza.

BWAHAHAHA: http://www.colbertnation.com/the-col...on-pizza-costs

08-17-2012 , 04:08 PM

#633

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Quote:

Originally Posted by suzzer99

But lets never think about the UIGEA and which party was 100% responsible for that.

Republicrats?

08-17-2012 , 04:19 PM

#634

Doc T River

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Quote:

Originally Posted by goofyballer

In this thread in PL. http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/57...l#post34337021

See post #329

Last edited by Doc T River; 08-17-2012 at 04:23 PM. Reason: named wrong area and forgot link

10-10-2012 , 11:25 AM

#635

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CEO to Workers: You'll Likely Be Fired If Obama Is Re-elected

Quote:

David Siegel, the owner of Westgate Resorts, sent a surprising email to his employees Monday.

It said that if President Barack Obama wins re-election and raises Siegel's taxes, he will have to lay off workers and downsize his company — or even shut it down.

"If any new taxes are levied on me, or my company, as our current President plans, I will have no choice but to reduce the size of this company," he wrote. "Rather than grow this company I will be forced to cut back. This means fewer jobs, less benefits and certainly less opportunity for everyone."

In a version of Romney's "47 percent" remarks, Siegel added that "people like me who made all the right decisions and invested in themselves are being forced to bail out all the people who didn't. The people that overspent their paychecks suddenly feel entitled to the same luxuries that I earned and sacrificed 42 years of my life for."

Quote:

David Siegel is the man who, together with his wife, Jackie, built the largest new house in America, known as "Versailles." His story first appeared in my book, "The High-Beta Rich." It then made it to the big screen with the documentary film "The Queen of Versailles."

They became symbols of outsized spending, debt and real estate in America.

But when the company started buckling under $1 billion in debt during the crisis, the Siegels' home went into foreclosure and was put up for sale. They cut back on the jet, took the kids out of private school and gave up some of their staff.

Quote:

Siegel said he's not acting out of self interest, but for the interest of his workers. While Westgate has never been more profitable, the company has 5,000 fewer workers than in 2007.

So he's just going to take a viable company that's never been more profitable, and scale it back. Because he obviously hates money. Soooo many other things wrong with this. Like if Mitt goes through with his debate promises - won't this guy's taxes go up a ton anyway? Also nice sweetheart deal he got on his ridiculous loans, unlike those that made all the wrong decisions and now want to mooch off him.

In b4 - why do you hate the rich? And pre-emptive sigh.

10-10-2012 , 11:28 AM

#636

FlyWf

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Did you see that he plagiarized most of his email from a chain email from last election?

10-10-2012 , 11:38 AM

#637

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Just, you know, for reference:

10-10-2012 , 11:44 AM

#638

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Quote:

Originally Posted by FlyWf

Did you see that he plagiarized most of his email from a chain email from last election?

link?

10-10-2012 , 11:46 AM

#639

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I wonder how close these guys are to pulling a Prescott Bush and plotting a military coup

10-10-2012 , 11:48 AM

#640

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Quote:

Originally Posted by suzzer99

link?

http://gawker.com/5950189/the-ceo-wh...obamas-elected

10-10-2012 , 12:06 PM

#641

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dude is insane. he really think the few thousand people he had register to vote made george W the president

10-10-2012 , 12:18 PM

#642

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I strongly suspect that story didn't happen, FWIW.

10-10-2012 , 12:21 PM

#643

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business week not a reputable site?

10-10-2012 , 12:23 PM

#644

FlyWf

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The voter registration part of the story doesn't click. I believe he tells people he did that. I don't think he did it.

10-10-2012 , 12:43 PM

#645

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When Obama wins, all you online players will be forced to buy health insurance.

10-10-2012 , 12:44 PM

#646

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OH SNAP

10-10-2012 , 12:48 PM

#647

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Riverman

Just, you know, for reference:

note she keeps her elbows covered up

10-10-2012 , 04:32 PM

#648

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David Frum has some good points on how Siegel seems to be confusing policies that are good for him and policies that favor his customers,
http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...at-so-mad.html

Note that Frum is giving Siegel WAY TOO MUCH CREDIT, Siegel has no idea about any specific policies of either candidate.