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Obama Presidency so far....Epic Fail? Obama Presidency so far....Epic Fail?

02-19-2010 , 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Cornbread Earl
well, we did not fall into depression.. he stopped the economy from collapsing..
No, just no.

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he propped up the auto industry,
True, he propped up a bunch of companies with poor business practices, thus encouraging a continuation of poor business practices. Guess what? If a company can't do what it needs to do to make a profit, they DESERVE TO FAIL. Propping them up just makes things worse.

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he has articulated a plan to get the hell out of iraq,
Yeah, and move us right into Afghanistan. More of the same.

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he has articulated a plan to improve the health care system which is pretty much broken for too many people in america.
He has articulated a plan to further enslave the people to make our health care system even worse than it already is.

Last edited by AlexM; 02-19-2010 at 12:28 PM.
02-19-2010 , 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Montius
Obama is radically too much of the same.
nice
02-19-2010 , 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Cornbread Earl
the man has not even been able to put his agenda in motion in the 1 year he has been in office because he has to spend so much of his time and energy bailing out the banks, the automobile industry, dealing with iraq, making sure people can stay in their homes, trying to do something about healthcare, trying to make sure states do go bankrupt, the shi**y economy.
And in "fixing" LOL every one of these things has harmed the country and stolen from its people.

like Tom said your halfway there to realizing who the enemy is.
02-19-2010 , 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Cornbread Earl
well, we did not fall into depression.. he stopped the economy from collapsing.. he propped up the auto industry,
awesome! lets "save" the economy by ****ing it up even more!!

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he has articulated a plan to get the hell out of iraq,
LULZ

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he has articulated a plan to improve the health care system which is pretty much broken for too many people in america.
1: this is absolutely not his job
2: his plan is insanely laughable
02-19-2010 , 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Montius
Obama is radically too much of the same.
+1
02-19-2010 , 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by sex
The most liberal U.S. senator and president ever = the polar opposite of our founders and what they stood for and what this country was founded upon.


= OBAMA IS A FAIL

Obama lovers, spin whatever you want anyway you want... but it is impossible to argue that Obama isn't the exact opposite in everything that our founders stood for and believed in.
I imagine our founders would have been far more upset that one of their slaves somehow managed to become Pres.
02-19-2010 , 11:49 PM
In a nutshell:

The stimulus was huge and wasteful and pushed through without much thought, debate , or transparency.

The number one objective from his 6th week in office until the present has been a massive health care reform bill that the majority of the people don't want. Even when he says jobs are the number one priority, he's always spending more time on his health care than the economy. He is actually coming out with HIS bill by Mon. (end of Feb 2010).


I will give him thumbs up for not closing GITMO and for the recent Afghan push.

$1,600,000,000,000.00 deficits are not responsible and truely are historic.
02-20-2010 , 01:58 AM
Well speaking for myself....

I like Obama's handling of the economy and agreed with his/bushes stimulus packages.I mostly agree with his stance on health care(Acist barf time : ) ) and hope the public option gets pushed through. I understand his approach on foreign policy issues and his position on Nuclear power. I enjoy his rhetoric on the don't ask don't tell policy and lowering drug sentences, though I would appreciate action soon. I very much see him as a good leader. He is a strong pragmatist and an excellent representative to the world.
The one issue I find absolutely troubling is his lack of commitment on privacy issues, specifically wiretapping, the patriot act, and gambling.
Overall I give him a B- but if this was year three I would give him a D.
I fall into a very specific brand of awesome socialism so I will give him time imo : )
02-20-2010 , 02:13 AM
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Originally Posted by spaceman Bryce
Well speaking for myself....

I like Obama's handling of the economy and agreed with his/bushes stimulus packages.
This is a normal sickness or lack of understanding that is surely one of the tenets of your special brand of socialism.
02-20-2010 , 02:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Mrmusicrecorder
This is a normal sickness or lack of understanding that is surely one of the tenets of your special brand of socialism.
It is hard to tell whether it is a sickness or a lack of understanding seeing as I believe it. Perhaps we should test some form of an an antidote
02-20-2010 , 02:57 AM
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Originally Posted by spaceman Bryce
It is hard to tell whether it is a sickness or a lack of understanding seeing as I believe it. Perhaps we should test some form of an an antidote
Nicely done.

Warning:
The antidote may contain 4000 hours of Michael Savage and a check for $500,000
02-20-2010 , 03:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Charlie.Dont.Surf
I imagine our founders would have been far more upset that one of their slaves somehow managed to become Pres.
Obama was never a slave. He is descended from slave owners on both sides.
02-20-2010 , 03:36 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnWilkes
Obama was never a slave. He is descended from slave owners on both sides.
really? thanks for the insight
02-20-2010 , 03:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Mrmusicrecorder
Nicely done.

Warning:
The antidote may contain 4000 hours of Michael Savage and a check for $500,000
Death by brain aneurysm, while killing the disease, also kills the host and is therefore not preferable.

The 500k on the other hand is always welcome.
02-20-2010 , 03:48 AM
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Originally Posted by spaceman Bryce
It is hard to tell whether it is a sickness or a lack of understanding seeing as I believe it. Perhaps we should test some form of an an antidote
I guess I need some also.

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Originally Posted by JohnWilkes
Obama was never a slave. He is descended from slave owners on both sides.
I was waiting for a reply like this..
02-20-2010 , 04:05 AM
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Originally Posted by spaceman Bryce
Well speaking for myself....

I like Obama's handling of the economy and agreed with his/bushes stimulus packages.I mostly agree with his stance on health care(Acist barf time : ) ) and hope the public option gets pushed through. I understand his approach on foreign policy issues and his position on Nuclear power. I enjoy his rhetoric on the don't ask don't tell policy and lowering drug sentences, though I would appreciate action soon. I very much see him as a good leader. He is a strong pragmatist and an excellent representative to the world.
The one issue I find absolutely troubling is his lack of commitment on privacy issues, specifically wiretapping, the patriot act, and gambling.
Overall I give him a B- but if this was year three I would give him a D.
I fall into a very specific brand of awesome socialism so I will give him time imo : )
yah, he's a great leader. he's so good he hasn't accomplished anything.

In all seriousness I do think he's awesome at threatening democratic legislators with supporting a different candidate in their primary. Separation of powers be damned!

I also think he's such a good leader that every vote has come down to pretty much strict party lines, not getting any republican support on any major issues.

That's the way to lead - threaten your party and alienate the other party.
02-20-2010 , 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Taso
I also think he's such a good leader that every vote has come down to pretty much strict party lines, not getting any republican support on any major issues.
this seems fairly disingenuous
02-20-2010 , 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Effen
this seems fairly disingenuous
"Fairly"?

Stick around a while, and you can drop the modifiers.
02-20-2010 , 05:45 PM
epic fail imo.

Obama has already broken the majority of his campaign promises and has only expanded and continued GWBs policies.

Expanded war in aghanistan by sending another 30,000 troops

Started bombing Pakistan with drones

Bows like a idiot to foreign leaders

Wants to socialize healthcare so it can turn out like the great success of a bankrupt social security and medicare

spend 700 billion on a stimulus package that hasnt done jack ****

Wants to give the private Federal Reserve more oversight after they are the prime cause of the financial meltdown

Appointed lobbyists as his advisors

Cant speak without a teleprompter

Has spent more money then all presidents in one year combined, back to George Washington

on and on...
02-20-2010 , 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Charlie.Dont.Surf
I imagine our founders would have been far more upset that one of their slaves somehow managed to become Pres.
This is such stupid comment.

First...George Washington was against slave ownership...

second... people who make statements like this somehow believe that Americans were like founders of slave ownership. Slaves ownership was a norm before recorded written history. And there are waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more slaves in the world right now then any slave owner in rural mississippi in the 17 and 1800's could have ever dreamed of.

Also, slave ownership has absolutely nothing to do with race... it has to do with preying on the weak, remember that, slave ownership then and now has nothing to do with a person's skin color. Not to mention, it was arabs who sold slaves to America back when their was slave ownership in our country.
02-20-2010 , 08:58 PM
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Has spent more money then all presidents in one year combined, back to George Washington
I love how the disingenuous original deficit talking point has now spread into just outright falsehoods. How innumerate do you have to be to this that the combined budget of the US 1776-2009 is less than the $3.8T budget he proposed?

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Obama has already broken the majority of his campaign promises and has only expanded and continued GWBs policies.
Yeah, I for one voted for him because he campaigned on socialising health care...

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Wants to socialize healthcare so it can turn out like the great success of a bankrupt social security and medicare
But I guess you didn't? Most of his promise breaking is that he's governed more to the right than he campaigned.
02-20-2010 , 09:19 PM
for all the "RAMMING HEALTH CARE DOWN OUR THROATS" talk I heard Rush do (yeah i listen what can i say i like lols) Obama seems to have rammed pretty much nothing down anyones throat despite having every oppt'y to do so for a solid year.

confirm/deny?
02-20-2010 , 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Effen
for all the "RAMMING HEALTH CARE DOWN OUR THROATS" talk I heard Rush do (yeah i listen what can i say i like lols) Obama seems to have rammed pretty much nothing down anyones throat despite having every oppt'y to do so for a solid year.

confirm/deny?
Ask michelle amirite?
02-20-2010 , 09:22 PM
But Democrats are pussies. They won't just stand up and own anything. They're too ****ing scared of something going wrong. So instead they let it ALL go wrong.
02-20-2010 , 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by tomdemaine
Ask michelle amirite?
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