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11-24-2013 , 02:51 PM

#676

seattlelou

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Syria though.

11-24-2013 , 03:35 PM

#677

[Phill]

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The funny thing about Syria is right after the deal was struck to make them give up their WMD the right wingnuts were saying stuff like "this is just a huge green light to Iran to keep going down the road to nuclear weapons".

At some point someone is going to unify these two events where dictators (one of which isnt a dictatorship) can get away with not being regime changed if only they give up their ambitions to hold weapons of mass destruction - and that is bad, for some reason.

11-24-2013 , 04:09 PM

#678

FlyWf

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Quote:

Originally Posted by seattlelou

Syria though.

Oh, you mean the other enormous diplomatic victory for the Obama administration? That Syria?

11-24-2013 , 04:11 PM

#679

FlyWf

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Hey remember when you voted for George W. Bush instead of John Kerry for President?

11-24-2013 , 04:27 PM

#680

seattlelou

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Quote:

Originally Posted by FlyWf

Oh, you mean the other enormous diplomatic victory for the Obama administration? That Syria?

Syria worked out really well but doesn't support Phil's statement that paying attention to Obama leads you to believe that he would go to war with Iran.

11-24-2013 , 04:45 PM

#681

FlyWf

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I'm old enough to remember when Republicans wanted to INPEACH Obama for going to war in Libya

11-24-2013 , 08:26 PM

#682

[Phill]

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Quote:

Originally Posted by seattlelou

Syria worked out really well but doesn't support Phil's statement that paying attention to Obama leads you to believe that he would go to war with Iran.

Cmon SL, we both know that no one who is paying attention thinks what happened in Syria is the same as Iran getting close to having a nuclear weapon.

Syria was a very specific series of circumstances - and one that would have ended up with them being attacked if they had not proactively decided to disarm before America carried out airstrikes against them.

11-24-2013 , 08:31 PM

#683

[Phill]

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Quote:

Originally Posted by FlyWf

I'm old enough to remember when Republicans wanted to INPEACH Obama for going to war in Libya

Libya was pretty insane. Republicans split into:

1, a group that wanted to go in straight away
2, a group that didnt care and wouldnt go in at all cos **** the Muslims
3, a group that wanted to go in but not with NATO ugh Frenchies
4, a group that thought it was treason to put US forces under the command of a Frenchy

They were all unified by knowing Obama was wrong, they just could decide how he was wrong.

11-24-2013 , 09:29 PM

#684

seattlelou

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Quote:

Originally Posted by [Phill]

He showed an extreme reluctance to act in Syria. Why you think that should be ignored when estimating Obama's willingness to act in Iran is befuddling.

11-25-2013 , 01:14 AM

#685

ikestoys

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Chances the knockout game hype is real and not 99% media fabricated bull****

+1000

Although props to the 60 year old who defended herself, supposedly from that nonsense

11-25-2013 , 06:41 AM

#686

champstark

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ikestoys

Chances the knockout game hype is real and not 99% media fabricated bull****

+1000

Although props to the 60 year old who defended herself, supposedly from that nonsense

well some isolated idiot probably thought it up and now that it's all over the news more idiots are copying it, unfortunately

that's my take at least

11-25-2013 , 07:15 AM

#687

[Phill]

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The knockout game isnt some new thing, it happened over here in my corner of England a few years ago. But it was probably a few isolated cases that the coverage will increase.

This is like how the media shouldnt cover suicides or obsessing over an economic downturn etc, often reporting bad things will cause more of them.

11-25-2013 , 01:41 PM

#688

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Related to the knockout game:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jenkem

11-25-2013 , 02:33 PM

#689

kevinb1983

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knockout game confirmed not new. I graduated high school in 2002 and there were punks doing it back then.

11-25-2013 , 03:13 PM

#690

longmissedblind

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Quote:

Originally Posted by seattlelou

He showed an extreme reluctance to act in Syria. Why you think that should be ignored when estimating Obama's willingness to act in Iran is befuddling.

Subjective opinion is subjective

11-25-2013 , 03:16 PM

#691

longmissedblind

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I think you deserve to get shot by an old lady if you try to knock her out for no reason, but, I mean come on... They hit her and didn't knock her out!

11-25-2013 , 03:29 PM

#692

longmissedblind

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Gem from John Cornyn about the Iran deal

Quote:

Originally Posted by @JohnCornyn

Amazing what the WH will do to distract attention from O-care

11-25-2013 , 03:30 PM

#693

rjoefish

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looooooooooooooooooooooooooooool

11-25-2013 , 03:40 PM

#694

[Phill]

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Wow, that would have been a perfect Right Wing or Onion? submission.

11-25-2013 , 07:54 PM

#695

simplicitus

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I was basically convinced this was true given the propensity of republicans to elect people with strong jaws and no discernible brains or skills beyond said jaws.

Facing The Nation
NOV 25 2013 @ 6:31PM
Maria Konnikova details research suggesting that judgments of political candidates are “made on the basis of intuitive responses to basic facial features rather than on any deep, rational calculus”:

[Princeton psychologist Alexander] Todorov showed pairs of portraits to roughly a thousand people, and asked them to rate the competence of each person. Unbeknownst to the test subjects, they were looking at candidates for the House and Senate in 2000, 2002, and 2004. In study after study, participants’ responses to the question of whether someone looked competent predicted actual election outcomes at a rate much higher than chance—from sixty-six to seventy-three per cent of the time. Even looking at the faces for as little as one second, Todorov found, yielded the exact same result: a snap judgment that generally identified the winners and losers. Todorov concluded that when we [who is "we"?-simp] make what we think of as well-reasoned voting decisions, we are actually driven in part by our initial, instinctive reactions to candidates.

http://dish.andrewsullivan.com/2013/...ng-the-nation/

11-25-2013 , 10:09 PM

#696

Trolly McTrollson

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I don't think Hillary is anywhere near the slam-dunk candidate people here think she is. Hillary vs. Christie is a good sweat imo. I'm not even convinced that the primary is going to be a chip shot for her.