It's not some huge gap to bridge. Support the moderates and progressives. Don't do what the terrorists want.

Righty. So we have 2.6+ million Muslims in the UK.

And by your own (very optimistic) estimates/percentages;

130,000+ of them wouldn't call the police in the event of threats of violence.

182,000 don't believe they're bound by the law.

And these are the admitted figures of you; trying to defend this repulsive, savage, backward cult.

Wait wait wait. Nope!

Wookie asked domer a question. This passive aggressive dodging **** doesn't cover over the fact that Team Dawkins/Harris/Maher Youtube Videos hasn't answered Wookie's question.

My answer to that question is "I don't know", by the way.

This post should directed at Domer.

Hahaha you accidentally slipped a little with this concern trolling BS, you forgot to pretend that you're on the same side as Wookie.

But, man is everything OK? Did you get banned from Stormfront or something? You seem pretty mad.

LOL Rastamouse, you want to expand some tiny percentages of Christians who believe abhorrent things to the hundreds of millions of them in the USA and see how dumb that makes your post above look?

Wookie isn't the one whining in a circuitous route about how the PC police and Obama won't blame terrorism on Islam and always try to shut down discussions with claims of Islamophobia and whatever. That's Domer and his fellows. Lot of complaints about how the liberal mods and whatever won't allow a serious discussion about Islam, that liberals hold Islam to a double standard because of white guilt, and so forth.

But what I haven't seen, what I've asked for and Wookie has asked for, is what exactly is being proposed here.


Now, far be it from me to read domer like a ****ing book, but what I think he wants is the freedom to say stupid offensive **** about Muslims on the internet without anyone disagreeing with him, full stop, no further ideas, no policy suggestions. But maybe I'm wrong. Maybe he does have a policy suggestion. Maybe you have a policy suggestion, too!

Pathetic, cowardly whataboutery.

Christians aren't bombing innocent people in secular, Western democracies?

Do 0% of Christians in the US accept homosexuality?

http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2009/m...-homosexuality

Would 1 in 20 Christians actively conceal someone about to commit an act of terrorism against innocent people?

Do 1 in 13 or so not consider themselves bound by US law?

Hang your head sir.

Oh and sign this petition please.

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/107516

Good night all.

Peace and love to all humans regardless of race, gender, background, sexuality, religion or lack thereof.

...so long as you wish the same for me.

Bound by the law is a horrible metric. I mean, doesn't every criminal not believe they are bound by the law? Are Muslims committing more crimes than the general public?

When did I quote his question to Domer?

I misremembered. Your post was immediately after Sholar's, not quoting it, about the question to domer. It doesn't change my point. Your question is pointless and question-begging, your passive aggressive "that sounds awful" BS is transparent.

Ok; very good question.

I would say no.

Most criminals, I'd assume (admittedly assume), do believe that they're bound by the law and that they're simply trying to not get caught.

I don't really see criminals as believing that stealing, murder, rape or whatever should actually be allowed. (although I'm sure there's the occasional, very, very wacky oddball out there).

Either way, its a fair question, but no. I don't believe its analogous to a religious believer sincerely believing that God's law is the only legitimate law and that therefore man-made law is an affront to the one and only righteous law.

Anyway, now I'm going to bed.

I don't care why somebody's stupid; it doesn't change the fact that they're stupid.

I'm not Domer. Take it up with him.

You're not the only one. Not just those two so we should look as bit further.

Nah, we bomb innocent people under varying forms of governance in the Muslim world.

But ok, same question to you as Domer. You've convinced the thread that Muslims in toto hold much more terrible views than Christians, etc. What's your step 2?

ISIL is responsible for well over 1200 casualties on multiple fronts in the last 3 weeks. Has to be considered the most proficient/deadly/successful (whatever you want to call it) terrorist organization in many many years.

Refusing to help refugees and building giant walls, obv, but also I think conservatives somehow have this idea that Muslims are like Rumplestiltskin and if we all just shout "Islam is terrible!" the terrorists will all disappear in a puff of smoke.

Now you sound like a republican talking about liberals.

It's a bad way of thinking about either side. Plus it would be a truly massive improvement if the conservatives thought shouting was the answer.

Makes sense, that's why witnesses were reporting chants of "thank you for opposing Bush's evil war" as they sprayed the crowd with machine gun fire.

Rasta - it has nothing to do with whataboutery and everything to do with your appeal to "well guys a hundred and eighty thousand shure is a large number" because you didn't like the statistics being ******ed.

Out of curiosity, how do you view Pew polls that involve polling Muslims around the world? It might be interesting to compare results of polls of Muslims around the world with polls of Christians around the world. IIRC Pew polls of Muslims around the world indicate a shocking level (to me anyway) of anti-semitism. Again IIRC the responses are to questions regarding Jews, not Israeli's, not Zionists, but Jews. That is ****ed up if accurate, no way around it.

There are pew polls that show pretty terrible numbers of atheists with deplorable views on torture and targeting civilians, so, cool? Deport all the atheists?

Or OK, lots of Muslims hate Jews. I even accept that. What is your step 2?

I'm sure that has nothing at all to do with the decades-long conflict with Israel and everything to do with the inherent savagery of Islam.