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Originally Posted by vhawk01
Beer conversation is a joke, there is tons of good American beers. Why WOULDNT there be? So many craft breweries, marketing to so many various niches, what possible reason can you have for suggesting that somehow English beers are just fundamentally better? They have some magic water or magic malt or something that we just dont have access to? For every "great" English beer there is very likely a clone made by some small brewery in the US.
Yes, IPAs are quite popular these days (and I have no idea how you can think Hopslam sucks, its soooo good) but nonetheless, MOST beers are not IPAs. There is plenty to choose from.
If your argument is something like "American beers are all bad, because they are all marketed for the tastes of Americans, and those are all bad" then basically your entire argument boils down to "I have weird tastes and no one makes a beer exactly for me. Except England." Sucks, i guesS?
This discussion is as fruitless as trying to explain colour to a man who has only ever seen in monochrome. Your whole argument is basically but grey is great and that blue,red,yellow stuff you say is so great is like just your opinion man.
American craft beers all suffer from horrible fancy play syndrome, and have no understanding of less is more. I have not tried Hopslam, so I googled it. From their website:
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Starting with six different hop varietals added to the brew kettle & culminating with a massive dry-hop addition of Simcoe hops, Bell's Hopslam Ale possesses the most complex hopping schedule in the Bell's repertoire.
Typical. American craft beers are typically confused and like the snotty nosed ginger teenager trying to prove his worth in front of his more suave confident assured and infinitely more mature betters, trying much much much to hard and consequently failing.
Calodonian Duechars IPA (Best Cask Ale at the Brewing Industry International Awards in 2005.) uses 2 malts and would never engage in the self indulgent frappery that has gone into Hopslam.
http://www.caledonianbeer.com/deuchars.htm