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04-05-2013 , 11:36 AM

#176

grizy

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Quote:

Originally Posted by O.A.F.K.1.1

I cant imagine the son of a dictator who has grown up all powerful and literally being worshiped as being the best candidate for leader. The chances are that he has several screws loose.

Kju spent most of his youth in a switzerland.

Imo this makes it likely the old military generals dont like him much.

It also means its rather unlikely hes actually delusional.

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04-05-2013 , 11:47 AM

#177

zikzak

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Al Mirpuri

Grunch. I am British. You guys (the USA) need to nuke N Korea right now whilst it has few (maybe even one nuclear weapon). Right now. Bomb it back to the stone age.

Are you going to wait until some point in the future when they are stronger?

You need to pre-emptive strike their asses.

FTW

You know you have your own nukes, right? Do it yourself. We're saving ours for Iran.

04-05-2013 , 11:55 AM

#178

UFO1947

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Don't worry guys, Canada's got this one. We'll drop maple syrup on them and then they'll be all sticky like.

04-05-2013 , 12:26 PM

#179

lol i play 2NL

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmXKh9ABgcM
Pretty good video taking a quick look at a possible conflict scenario

04-05-2013 , 12:27 PM

#180

Brons

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Deuces McKracken

They haven't been doing this forever and "they" is a constantly shifting behemoth with a new leader with an entirely different history than the previous leaders. Our analysts say he has "something to prove" which is always a position which puts people in danger but in a fascist regime it's especially dangerous. Your two second analysis is just crap to make you feel better. I wish I was so simple minded that it made me feel better.

Do we really know how China would react to us funneling in troops over there in the event something jumped off? Is the nuclear option off the table since the fallout would reach China? If we can't nuke them what are our options if we go to war? I just don't see this playing out well for us because their military is massive and I don't see us backing down either. Imagine what would happen if we had some psychotic repub like Bush presiding over this? That could happen 3 years and change from right now. I would say that NK would be attacked under the Bush doctrine inasmuch as it was an actual doctrine and not just an excuse. We know they have nukes and they said they are aimed at us. At this point even a Barrack Obama has to be thinking how stupid he would feel if NK did take a shot, get lucky and hit Guam. I could see the embarrassment Barrack's face as he answers the accusation "They said they were going to do it. Why didn't you strike at that point?"

Not getting scared at irrelevant non-dangerous things is a pretty good policy imo. I hope you don't watch tv news.

04-05-2013 , 12:53 PM

#181

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LirvA vs. Shoe is one of those standoffs that I hope ends with the internet equivalent of Reservoir Dogs.

04-05-2013 , 12:54 PM

#182

SuperUberBob

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Hardball47

...it's a bad idea to start teaching English in South Korea.

Sure is.

I'm now in China though. I can say that China really wants everything to stay chill. They want the buffer zone to stay a buffer zone. They want to continue trading with NK.

I am also quite sure that they will not back NK if it moves first because China does not want to be seen as a supporter of a psychotic dictatorship. If the US were to attack first, then China would definitely get involved in protecting their buffer zone.

This is just more of the same nonsense we heard from his father in the past.

04-05-2013 , 02:39 PM

#183

spike420211

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wat I don't get:
All those South Koreans that were getting up to go 2 work in a N.
Korea industrial park.
Can u say death wish?

04-05-2013 , 05:33 PM

#184

Ratamahatta

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Can anyone tell me what the relationship is like between China and South Korea as well as between North Korea and Japan?

04-05-2013 , 05:39 PM

#185

zikzak

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Pretty good and abysmal, respectively.

04-05-2013 , 05:39 PM

#186

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ratamahatta

Can anyone tell me what the relationship is like between China and South Korea as well as between North Korea and Japan?

Not great and pretty bad, respectively. S.K. doesn't appreciate China's tacit support for the North, and N.K. views Japan with hostility because it's a key U.S. ally.

Arguably in recent years though, N.K. has taken to viewing the U.S. as its chief adversary rather than S.K. That's partly a result of pre-2007 Bush foreign policy and partly a result of the increasing paranoia of the most recent two rulers.

04-05-2013 , 05:40 PM

#187

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Originally Posted by zikzak

Pretty good and abysmal, respectively.

Pretty good in what sense? Yes, they're trading partners, but China's ties to the North are a real sore spot in the relationship.

04-05-2013 , 05:43 PM

#188

zikzak

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Originally Posted by Turn Prophet

Pretty good in what sense? Yes, they're trading partners, but China's ties to the North are a real sore spot in the relationship.

My impression is that there may be some tensions, but no open hostility like between China and Japan.

04-05-2013 , 06:33 PM

#189

sofocused978

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From the OOT LC thread lol

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Originally Posted by Rei Ayanami

04-05-2013 , 11:49 PM

#190

rockfsh

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kim-jong-un-portrayed-as-a-pig-as-north-korean-websites-hacked-by-anonymous

04-05-2013 , 11:57 PM

#191

ikestoys

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sigh not what i want to see right now anonymous.

04-06-2013 , 12:22 AM

#192

Madjohnny

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Quote:

Originally Posted by LirvA

Civilian casualties caused by U.S. military in wars.

Most of the deaths in the Hiroshima and Nagasaki atomic bombings were civilians.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomic...a_and_Nagasaki

Vietnam - 50-65 thousand
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veitna...y_Lai_massacre

Korean war - An estimated 1,550,000 North Korean civilians killed
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean..._and_massacres

Desert Storm - An estimated 3,664 Iraqi civilians killed
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desert_storm#Casualties

Second Iraq war - 103,160-113,728 dead Iraqi civilians
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_war

Afghanistan war - 12,500-14,700 dead Afghani civilians
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afghanistan_war

America is also responsible for many deaths in the countries where they overthrew the government and setup dictators.

I don't have the time right now to list all of them, but an example is:
1954 Guatemalan coup d'état

and if someone has a lot of free time they could start listing off all the countries the US tried to exploit for their own financial gain, to the determent of the local people.

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04-06-2013 , 12:32 AM

#193

KennyJPowers

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04-06-2013 , 10:47 AM

#194

There Is A Light

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Castro <3

04-06-2013 , 10:56 AM

#195

Money2Burn

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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson

We wouldn't have chemical fertilizers that feed billions without the Nazis. Boom! Checkmate!

More like poison billions, AMIRIGHT?!?!

04-06-2013 , 02:50 PM

#196

2/325Falcon

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USA #1 and lol Canada.

04-06-2013 , 07:55 PM

#197

longmissedblind

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Madjohnny

America is also responsible for many deaths in the countries where they overthrew the government and setup dictators.

I don't have the time right now to list all of them, but an example is:
1954 Guatemalan coup d'état

and if someone has a lot of free time they could start listing off all the countries the US tried to exploit for their own financial gain, to the determent of the local people.

his name is John Perkins