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01-18-2015 , 03:48 PM

#17526

formula72

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 5,065

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2OutsNoProb

People who treat their guns as if they're the answer to everything in life.
People who treat their guns with the same love as they treat their children.
People who see nothing but positivity, regardless of circumstances, in something that constantly results in injuries and deaths.
People who feel the need to have 70 of these ****ing things because they're convinced that the government is showing up tomorrow with the black helicopters to take over.

Thanks for answering. So then I'd assume you are only having issues with a small # of people. I've asked this question to others and have received answers ranging from all gun owners to this.

01-18-2015 , 03:54 PM

#17527

goofball

Beat Nate Silver

Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 20,432

Anyone who seriously advances any of the following arguments:

Why have laws because they can't be perfectly enforced
Guns make us safer
The only way to stop a good guy with a gun is a bad guy with a gun
People die of things other than guns (i.e. knives, drunk driving)
Mental illness exists
I need my guns to protect me from the government

01-18-2015 , 03:57 PM

#17528

ikestoys

banned

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lol so if you think mental illness exists.... you're a gun nut. goofball lulz

01-18-2015 , 04:11 PM

#17529

Pilkain

old hand

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Goofball doing his best Deuces impression.

01-18-2015 , 04:37 PM

#17530

insidemanpoker

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 3,590

Quote:

A great debate on the subject. If you're genuinely interested in a principled discussion, give it a listen:

seriously, not one person is interested enough in this subject for a more sincere debate?

01-18-2015 , 07:46 PM

#17531

Oroku$aki

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ikestoys

lol so if you think mental illness exists.... you're a gun nut. goofball lulz

He wrote it that way, so that's that. It instantly made me think of the fact that people with an irrational fear of mental illness exist.

01-18-2015 , 08:04 PM

#17532

2OutsNoProb

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Quote:

Originally Posted by formula72

Thanks for answering. So then I'd assume you are only having issues with a small # of people. I've asked this question to others and have received answers ranging from all gun owners to this.

Small percentage of overall people in this country, or overall gun owners? Yes. Small absolute # of people? No. There are literally millions of people who think the above.

01-18-2015 , 08:05 PM

#17533

2OutsNoProb

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ikestoys

lol so if you think mental illness exists.... you're a gun nut. goofball lulz

Way to ignore the other 9 sentences offered between the two of us.

01-18-2015 , 08:41 PM

#17534

ikestoys

banned

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Oh I'm sorry is this supposed to be a serious conversation? Because it isn't.

01-18-2015 , 08:59 PM

#17535

JimHammer

Digg'n the gifs

Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 8,742

Quote:

Originally Posted by insidemanpoker

seriously, not one person is interested enough in this subject for a more sincere debate?

Quote:

Originally Posted by ikestoys

Oh I'm sorry is this supposed to be a serious conversation? Because it isn't.

There's your answer.

01-18-2015 , 09:07 PM

#17536

Turn Prophet

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Quote:

Originally Posted by goofball

This. And anyone who thinks the NRA is a net positive to society.

01-18-2015 , 09:09 PM

#17537

ikestoys

banned

Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 94,424

Quote:

Originally Posted by JimHammer

There's your answer.

lol the irony. They're talking about when it's ok to call someone a gun nut.... not the actual serious debate. GTFOOH with that nonsense.

01-18-2015 , 09:29 PM

#17538

ikestoys

banned

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Meanwhile in 'serious' talk... another year of gun rights advances and another year of falling crime.

01-18-2015 , 09:41 PM

#17539

JimHammer

Digg'n the gifs

Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 8,742

Quote:

Originally Posted by insidemanpoker

seriously, not one person is interested enough in this subject for a more sincere debate?

Actual answer:

People are interested, but I don't think any one here is capable of a sincere debate.

Quote:

Meanwhile in 'serious' talk... another year of gun rights advances and another year of falling crime.

lol's and facepalm.jpg references are just easier.

01-18-2015 , 11:46 PM

#17540

TimRed

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In my experience, Americans who own guns tend to be very paranoid and say things like "you will never know when you will need it" and "if you have a problem, call me and i will get my gun". They seem to believe that their gun is a very important tool that will be necessary at some point.

They pride the country for the freedom for allowing them the guns yet fail to recognize the lack of free thought which told them that they need it in the first place. They see themselves as a wolf when they are actually a sheep.

01-19-2015 , 12:27 AM

#17541

Oroku$aki

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TimRed

In my experience, Americans who own guns tend to be very paranoid and say things like "you will never know when you will need it" and "if you have a problem, call me and i will get my gun". They seem to believe that their gun is a very important tool that will be necessary at some point.

They pride the country for the freedom for allowing them the guns yet fail to recognize the lack of free thought which told them that they need it in the first place. They see themselves as a wolf when they are actually a sheep.

That's so ****ing good. Such a good way of putting it.

01-19-2015 , 04:03 AM

#17542

rugby

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Sep 2013 Posts: 4,670

Quote:

Originally Posted by ikestoys

Meanwhile in 'serious' talk... another year of gun rights advances and another year of falling crime.

Lol, holy correlation vs causation batman.

Put these 4 statements into two pairs that work best.

- crime is falling in all developed western countries.
- crime is falling in the US.
- the US has minimal controls on guns /aka gun "rights"
- the US is a massive outlier on both gun murders and overall murders...

01-19-2015 , 07:25 PM

#17543

2OutsNoProb

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ikestoys

Meanwhile in 'serious' talk... another year of gun rights advances and another year of falling crime.

We've been over this. Crime has been plummeting for 20+ years now, nationwide, for many reasons that have nothing to do with private gun ownership.

01-19-2015 , 07:27 PM

#17544

2OutsNoProb

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ikestoys

Oh I'm sorry is this supposed to be a serious conversation? Because it isn't.

I'm taking it seriously. Others are, as well. You have nothing to add other than your own lunatic-fringe rambling, as usual, so now you're claiming it's silly.

I think the negative stigma surrounding hardcore 2A supporters, and why it exists, are very relevant.

01-19-2015 , 08:04 PM

#17545

campfirewest

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ikestoys

Meanwhile in 'serious' talk... another year of gun rights advances and another year of falling crime.

Quote:

Originally Posted by rugby

You sound like the Fox News people who hate Obama and say he's bad for the economy despite a higher stock market, lower gas prices and lower unemployment.

01-19-2015 , 08:55 PM

#17546

rugby

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Sep 2013 Posts: 4,670

Quote:

Originally Posted by campfirewest

You sound like the Fox News people who hate Obama and say he's bad for the economy despite a higher stock market, lower gas prices and lower unemployment.

Lol. Swing and a miss there sport.

01-22-2015 , 04:26 PM

#17547

33 Big Blinds

veteran

Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 2,324

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2OutsNoProb

Whew, I'm not a gun nut.

01-22-2015 , 04:57 PM

#17548

WaKtickets

grinder

Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 679

By that crazy definition no one is a gun nut

Sent from my DPA23D-4S using 2+2 Forums

01-22-2015 , 08:56 PM

#17549

2OutsNoProb

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 33 Big Blinds

Whew, I'm not a gun nut.

Glad to hear it.

01-22-2015 , 09:56 PM

#17550

ikestoys

banned

Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 94,424

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2OutsNoProb

We've been over this. Crime has been plummeting for 20+ years now, nationwide, for many reasons that have nothing to do with private gun ownership.

Crime has been plummeting for 20+ years now? Wow... so has private gun ownership... for the past 20+ years.

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