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Yes. We should end the drug war. I don't disagree with you on that.

So let's do a hypothetical for a second. We end the drug war, and the gun violence rate in the US stays as stagnant as it has for 15 years. What's the next step?

Dunno. My position on gun control isn't much different than yours anyway, possibly other than I think it should be decided democratically with respect for minority interests. Also, while I think there should bee some basic federal rules, I think these laws should vary by state.

But, imo, it's virtually unimaginable that ending the drug war doesn't significantly reduce violence in the US.

10-02-2014 , 05:36 PM

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JAAASH

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Originally Posted by dinopoker

Except in the places where they've legislated them away and that didn't really happen. So yeah...wait, what was your point again?

Like Chicago? New York City? Seems to have cut down on gun violence there.

10-02-2014 , 05:37 PM

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goofball

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Go away.

10-02-2014 , 07:02 PM

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dinopoker

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Originally Posted by JAAASH

Like Chicago? New York City? Seems to have cut down on gun violence there.

Or Japan, the UK, or Sweden? People just dropping like flies in those places?

10-02-2014 , 07:04 PM

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JAAASH

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Originally Posted by dinopoker

Or Japan, the UK, or Sweden? People just dropping like flies in those places?

Different countries on different continents with vastly different cultures. I think looking within our own country is a better barometer.

10-02-2014 , 07:07 PM

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master3004

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Hey look, the culture comment again. Also, it's really difficult to judge Chicago and nyc (who's gun violence numbers are actually down considerably since the change) when there are open borders with cities surrounding them with easy access to guns.

We've been over that before it whatever

10-02-2014 , 07:14 PM

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goofball

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Originally Posted by JAAASH

Different countries on different continents with vastly different cultures. I think looking within our own country is a better barometer.

Stop. No you don't.

10-09-2014 , 11:15 AM

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Namath12

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Man openly carrying new gun robbed by another armed man

10-09-2014 , 09:32 PM

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2OutsNoProb

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The irony.

10-15-2014 , 05:28 PM

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Videopro

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3D-PRINTED GUN DESIGNER PARTNERING WITH SAN DIEGO DISTRIBUTOR FOR UNTRACEABLE AR-15S

10-15-2014 , 10:40 PM

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DrewOnTilt

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3D-PRINTED GUN DESIGNER PARTNERING WITH SAN DIEGO DISTRIBUTOR FOR UNTRACEABLE AR-15S

Meh, I'm going to go ahead and opine on this as it being no big deal, despite the all-caps and semi-bombastic headline. People have been legally making their own personal firearms for a long time, and from what I understand the steps required to complete the milling and drilling on an 80% lower receiver are pretty straightforward.

That being said, Cody Wilson seems hell bent on seeing just how hard he can poke the ATF bear without waking it. Might be interesting.

10-17-2014 , 11:16 AM

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I'm a little confused how a 3d printer, which I thought only worked in plastic, can handle the explosive pressure of a gun? My library has a 3d printer and I've seen some nifty plastic octopuses printed out that the kids love but not clear on what kind of durability the end product is....

10-18-2014 , 03:52 PM

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LASJayhawk

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They only last maybe a dozen shots.

10-24-2014 , 04:22 PM

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Biesterfield

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school shooting in WA state

more guns clearly the answer. relax gun laws, give everyone a gun. guns are the best. then this all will clearly stop.

10-24-2014 , 04:45 PM

#17066

master3004

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Originally Posted by Biesterfield

school shooting in WA state

more guns clearly the answer. relax gun laws, give everyone a gun. guns are the best. then this all will clearly stop.

This actually happened at an interesting time. Two weeks before the big gun vote in WA. Curious how this will affect things

10-24-2014 , 04:45 PM

#17067

codemanz5

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Originally Posted by Biesterfield

school shooting in WA state

more guns clearly the answer. relax gun laws, give everyone a gun. guns are the best. then this all will clearly stop.

Well that didn't take long. You didn't waste anytime trying to exploit this tragedy.

10-24-2014 , 04:48 PM

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master3004

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Originally Posted by codemanz5

Well that didn't take long. You didn't waste anytime trying to exploit this tragedy.

This is the gun nut thread. Nobody is exploiting anything. Luckily nobody other than the shooter died, but it's still something that is quite welcome to be introduced in this thread

10-24-2014 , 05:33 PM

#17069

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Originally Posted by Biesterfield

school shooting in WA state

more guns clearly the answer. relax gun laws, give everyone a gun. guns are the best. then this all will clearly stop.

this is one of those cases where the above could literally be a parody or a sincere post depending on who posted it.

10-24-2014 , 05:33 PM

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master3004

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****. Just saw that they've said he now took somebody down with him. God damn it

10-24-2014 , 05:40 PM

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10-24-2014 , 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by kurto

For an AR-15, the part that is legally considered the 'firearm' is called the lower receiver, and it does not contain the pressure of a round. That occurs in the upper receiver/barrel, and that is not legally considered a firearm. The lower attaches to the upper with 2 pins. The lower does still need some strength as it must withstand the forces of recoil.

You can have buy an upper online and have it mailed to your house (like I did

), but you cannot have a lower mailed to you unless you have a federal firearms license.

10-24-2014 , 09:26 PM

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goofball

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https://twitter.com/Rubiconski/statu...18951331491840

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Washington Universal Background Checks for Gun Purchases, Initiative 594 is on the November 4 ballot

Explains the #MarysvilleShooting

10-25-2014 , 03:03 AM

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rjoefish

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Originally Posted by master3004

****. Just saw that they've said he now took somebody down with him. God damn it

Doesn't sound like 3 others are doing well either. Phrases like 'very critically wounded', 'shot in jaw', 'shot to the head' etc :/

10-25-2014 , 05:50 AM

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ligastar

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yesterday's school shooting was the 87th school shooting in the U.S. since Sandy Hook.

damn you politicians.

damn you gun nuts.

it is not normal in a civilized nation to have over 30,000 gun deaths a year.

Firearm homicide rates in selected high-income countries, 2010

Comparison of gun homicides in U.S. cities to some of the deadliest places in the world

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