That's criminal stupidity right there. I can't imagine the people who do this stuff think through these plans at all.

Because for some reason the people who like that way, have it their way.

Yeah but just think, if you were gonna rob that Kroger and you saw a dude with an assault rifle you'd stop. Right? BOOM SEE ARMED GUARDS AT EVERY KROGER ASAP

Noob question.

Greg Ball, a NY State Senator, points to the Dept of Homeland Security wanting to buy 7000 AR-15s and his point is that the DHS says these weapons are "suitable for personal defense use in close quarters" which is contrary to what Gov. Cuomo and others have said.

http://www.nysenate.gov/press-releas...cuomo-gun-grab

Ok, fine, I understand what he's saying. But, the actual request for proposal by the DHS doesn't mention the AR-15 at all. Only that the weapons use the 5.56×45mm NATO cartridge.

The RFP is here... https://www.fbo.gov/?s=opportunity&m...=core&_cview=0 ... but if you don't want to wade through it all the main thing is, "DHS and its components have a requirement for a 5.56x45mm NATO, select-fire firearm suitable for personal defense use in close quarters and/or when maximum concealment is required." That's all.

So, my question (tho, sure, a bit nitty) is that doesn't that cartridge fit other rifles? I know it does, I guess, but I'm asking whether ANY rifle that qualifies would be considered an AR-15 variant? I don't think so, and I think that Ball is being a bit misleading with that part of his argument.

I think you need to go to the gun owner fap thread.

Oh yeah, I forgot about that thing. Eh, maybe someone who knows will see.

oops wrong thread

Government Officials contradicting themselves... Oh My!



Didn't read the links but, the AR15 platform is used to make what the BATF considers a pistol.

Think of one of those scurry black AR's with an eight inch barrel and no butt stock. It would fit inside of a suit jacket.

Google .223 pistol and you'll find it.

UNCLE BILLY!!!

What a bunch a morons.

Your reality is quite different then mine. When I see a sleepy town where there has been no battles for decades (possibly ever) and there is no impending battle to the best of our knowledge there... in most people's 'reality' they would not label that place as a battlefield.

In your reality there being a 'battle' has nothing to do with a place being a battlefield.

In the picture I posted previously of Disneyland's mainstreet USA let's compare it to the definition of Battlefield-
I see your point. If we ignore the definition of words then you are 100% right here.

Anyhow- I don't have the slightest idea why you're asking if online poker is illegal. What I can state pretty confidently is that since it was made illegal in the US the amount of online poker playing has gone way down. I guess we can see how effective a ban can be.

From Happyfish's own quote:
Its odd that they wrote out "far from any battlefield" since a battlefield is everywhere?!?!? Huh. Maybe happyfish needs to write to them to correct that since it makes no sense.

love is a battlefield, and love is everywhere

therefore a battlefield is everywhere

logic morans

Stay classy, gun people.

Good luck to you in your crusade to change the legal definitions used by the US government. I wish you luck, because I believe they are wrong. Until you succeed in your quest, I will continue to describe reality. Good day!

But 2+2 thinks poker is legal. How can we determine the reality of the situation? Is it what 2+2 thinks, or what the US government thinks?

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/01/2...rong-driveway/

Dude ended up killing a 22 year old sitting in his driveway. If only the people in the car were armed, then they all would have been safer.

Isnt it "funny" how all these cases have the murderer clearly following an instruction they have read somewhere on how to create legal doubt. Such as shouting that they are fearful for their life or firing a warning shot in the air before then immediately gunning down the victim even as they try to flee for their lives.

How many people must be getting murdered or at least terrorised in cases where the murderers understood the rules slightly better so it didnt make the news.

Incredibly tragic. Too bad nothing can be done about tragedies like this happening again. It's just the way it is.

you just have to hope he's one of dem good guys. if so, he'll protect you if one of dem bad guys shows up.

Did you actually watch the video? The left wing media's portrial of this as heckling etc. is just comical and really shows they have an agenda in how they want gun owners protrayed.

who is this 2+2? I would have bet that most people on 2+2 believe online poker should be legal but recognize that it currently is not in the US.

Poker itself IS legal. But depending on what state you're in there may be restrictions on what you may wager.

Regarding your previous post... its not even clear anymore to me why you're having a horrible semantics battle that as best I can tell is just to make people question your credibility. I assume its some convaluted argument explaining why everyone needs to have an armory in their home everywhere is the US since I believe this started with you explaining why the picture I posted was necessary but... Its not really interesting enough to me to reread the thread. You think people need guns at Disneyland because its a battlefield. You seem very sane and credible to me. That's enough of this for me. You may carry on to others with your argument about how the word "battlefield" doesn't actually require a battle... I don't know if anyone else is as foolish as me to engage you but I wish you luck.

He couldn't know that the people in his driveway weren't about to launch a home invasion and beat him with ice skates. Clearly this was justified.

lol people who use a car gps instead of being able to look up and follow directions. they probably would have driven into a lake anyway

stupid people using technology!

I still use a sextant when I drive around because I'm smart.

FB post from my conservative cousin: