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You two both know I'm not talking about practice ammunition but about the standard rounds that tumble and fragment on impact because that's what they're supposed to do. You gain nothing in the conversation by pretending I'm talking about something having absolutely no relevance to either the tragedy in Connecticut or the point I'm making.

You'd prefer rounds that travel right through the intended target and hit things behind the target?

12-16-2012 , 01:00 PM

#2777

ikestoys

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goofball, that might as well be a white flag

12-16-2012 , 01:00 PM

#2778

joeyDizzle

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Originally Posted by CPHoya

Oh, so you mean like "varmint loads"?

12-16-2012 , 01:01 PM

#2779

Bill Haywood

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Originally Posted by champstark

The second seems to be unclear on whether only a "Militia" can bear arms, or is that referring to everyone?

Unclear only from the mud stirred up.

The purpose of the amendment was to insure that states retained military forces and the federal government did not have a monopoly on organized violence.

A right for non militia members to own guns would need to derive from the Constitutional right to own property.

12-16-2012 , 01:01 PM

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#Thinman

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BREAKING UPDATE: First reports coming in confirm that the 4th amendment is alive and well. Citizens in mass utilize 'finger guns' to identify residences containing firearms not previously surrendered providing probable cause for legal searches.

12-16-2012 , 01:01 PM

#2781

goofball

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I'll never understand where th guns nuts get off saying "don't use a tragedy to advance a political goal"

What's the political goal being advanced? Why do you think people want stronger gun control? Politically..???

It's because stronger gun control laws would prevent some of this ****, so eff your games/investment/"self-defense"

12-16-2012 , 01:03 PM

#2782

joeyDizzle

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Cphoya, why don't you fill the forum in on the history of the .223 and how it gained popularity?

12-16-2012 , 01:04 PM

#2783

ikestoys

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Originally Posted by goofball

Well, you have a choice. You can attempt to craft some sort of policy that will actually work, or you can pass some emotive nonsense named after the victim of a tragedy.

Laws that pass under the latter choice are almost all really stupid laws.

12-16-2012 , 01:05 PM

#2784

DblBarrelJ

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Quote:

Originally Posted by champstark

A lot of similar people refused to let blacks integrate into public schools as well. They were eventually dealt with and now are looked at as being on the wrong side of history.

No, there's actually not much overlap at all.

Nice try though.

12-16-2012 , 01:08 PM

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13ball

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CPHoya THEY KNOW MORE ABOUT THE BOOM BOOMS. YOU LOSE.

12-16-2012 , 01:08 PM

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champstark

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DblBarrelJ

No, there's actually not much overlap at all.

Nice try though.

You really think those members of Congress that STILL oppose the Civil Rights Act aren't also some of the biggest recipients of NRA donations?

12-16-2012 , 01:09 PM

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DblBarrelJ

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Originally Posted by #Thinman

I'm not getting into this, because it's OT, but your understanding of PC is even worse than your understanding of firearms.

12-16-2012 , 01:11 PM

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#Thinman

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how cute, the guy using pissing on children's graves as an example says I don't understand PC.

12-16-2012 , 01:11 PM

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dessin d'enfant

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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson

And I love Morgan Freeman, but is there any real evidence whatsoever that reporting about massacres causes massacres? These nutjobs aren't motivated by anything rational like fame, they just kill because they are out of their ever-loving minds afaict. Blaming CNN is scapegoating.

Calling them nutjobs is a cop out as well because they were normal enough to not be institutionalized etc before the murders.

12-16-2012 , 01:11 PM

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DblBarrelJ

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Originally Posted by champstark

You really think those members of Congress that STILL oppose the Civil Rights Act aren't also some of the biggest recipients of NRA donations?

That's a lovely goalpost shift.

Clearly you were saying gun owners are racist.

Now that you're backing off that ******ed position, I'll agree that the NRA supports douchenozzle congresspeople who may be racist.

Of course I'm also forced to point out that's irrelevant to what you said initially.

12-16-2012 , 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by champstark

You really think those members of Congress that STILL oppose the Civil Rights Act aren't also some of the biggest recipients of NRA donations?

You do realize that the Civil Rights Act of 1964 was supported by a larger percentage of Republicans in Congress than Democrats, right?

12-16-2012 , 01:13 PM

#2792

champstark

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Originally Posted by DblBarrelJ

I was merely pointing out that there is, in fact, overlap.

12-16-2012 , 01:14 PM

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dessin d'enfant

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Originally Posted by goofball

It's like the creationist tacit of saying their views on the origin of humans are religious so evolution is a religious idea that doesn't belong in science.

12-16-2012 , 01:14 PM

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#Thinman

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Originally Posted by DblBarrelJ

Yea, whiny bitches who want to steal from me aren't gonna get much love from me. Sorry.

Now the kids, that's a tragedy.

You *******s, LMAO at your butthurt.

Because you're not butthurt the kids got killed.

You're butthurt Obama is too good of a human being to let you piss on those kids graves to sleep better at night.

PC (off meds)

12-16-2012 , 01:15 PM

#2795

DblBarrelJ

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Originally Posted by #Thinman

how cute, they guy using pissing on children's graves as an example says I don't understand PC.

Nor do you understand analogy.

The terminology was meant to be offensive. Intentionally. I'm glad you were offended. You should be. The road you were attempting to go down (and goofball still is going down) is disgusting. Using dead children as a means to advance your long running political agenda of control isn't something to be proud of.

12-16-2012 , 01:15 PM

#2796

champstark

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gusmahler

You do realize that the Civil Rights Act of 1964 was supported by a larger percentage of Republicans in Congress than Democrats, right?

Really?

Do you not know the history of political parties in this country?

Republicans and Democrats today are completely different than they were in 1964, primarily because of the Civil Rights Act.

12-16-2012 , 01:15 PM

#2797

joeyDizzle

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 13ball

CPHoya THEY KNOW MORE ABOUT THE BOOM BOOMS. YOU LOSE.

I know you can read, so I guess you're just being a joke.

He claimed there was no use for .223 rounds other than tearing human bones and flesh. .

.223 ammuniton is popular for varmint hunting

12-16-2012 , 01:16 PM

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dessin d'enfant

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Originally Posted by gusmahler

You do realize that the Civil Rights Act of 1964 was supported by a larger percentage of Republicans in Congress than Democrats, right?

I for one, did not realize that.

12-16-2012 , 01:17 PM

#2799

goofball

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Originally Posted by ikestoys

I've already proposed a basic framework.

Quote:

To get a gun in Japan, first, you have to attend an all-day class and pass a written test, which are held only once per month. You also must take and pass a shooting range class. Then, head over to a hospital for a mental test and drug test (Japan is unusual in that potential gun owners must affirmatively prove their mental fitness), which you'll file with the police. Finally, pass a rigorous background check for any criminal record or association with criminal or extremist groups, and you will be the proud new owner of your shotgun or air rifle. Just don't forget to provide police with documentation on the specific location of the gun in your home, as well as the ammo, both of which must be locked and stored separately. And remember to have the police inspect the gun once per year and to re-take the class and exam every three years.

http://www.theatlantic.com/internati...deaths/260189/