You are completely talking out of your ass.

Try familiarizing yourself with the basic facts of a subject before forming an opinion an rushing to the internet to proclaim your moral superiority.

Yes, yes, let's clarify. The .223 round doesn't tumble in the air, but when it hit's a target it will yaw and start to disintegrate itself, turning into a "...little shotgun going off inside the target."

https://www.ar15.com/forums/ar-15/Do...e_/118-204514/

If hunting rounds aren't doing that and leaving lead bits all through the meat they are using a different round with different characteristics. The round designed for the gun though is surprisingly effective against humans, in part because of what happens to the bullet.

Funny. Most of you have zero clue on guns. Zero clue on the 2nd Amendment, nor any clue why we wont allow a government proven now to illegally spy on every American, who used the IRS, EPA, FBI and DOJ to attack political opponents, no matter how many school shootings they allow to occur. Not if there was a shooting every single day. In full disclosure I did use my tax cut to buy yet another AR15 which brings my grant total into double digits for that model. You libtards can google all the stats and opinions and anything else you want but will always look foolish to people that actually shoot and have shot guns for years. Like if most of us were to jump in the HSMTT forum and start talking strategy after hitting youtube for the day. Don't like guns? Move to a gun free state.....there are plenty. Like guns move to a gun friendly state. But expecting Americans to just piss away the 2nd Amendment in the name of "sensible gun laws" is not happening. There is nothing sensible about liberals and guns.

2 useless gun law examples:
Ban the AR. So what about the other 20ish normal hunting rifles that fire the same bullet and have the same capacity, which number in the tens of millions? Useless Act.
Ban Bump stocks. Oh. Ok. Are you aware you can bump fire nearly any semi auto gun, pistol or rifle with no mods? Or that any half assed mcgiver could make one in any of 100 ways using scrap in their garage? Again another totally useless "sensible feel good" law proposed that in effect does not do one single thing.
Pro gun people would agree with many reforms, but useless ones that do not even address the problem? Not getting on board.

OK bro. No way anyone would suggest banning all semiautomatic rifles. We just too dumb

I think the first thing we need to settle in any reasonable debate about guns in society is the definition of murder vs killing humans. /sarc

Nah. If it comes to that, you will have been the reason, just like last time.

Sober, well-articulated conservative viewpoints once again squelched by overzealous libtard mods. Sad!

Lol at the dude who spends his windfall on a a tenth ar (and his nine buddies?) having a snowball’s chance in hell against the drone strikes and depleted uranium rounds. But it’s fun to pretend!

I know waaaaaay more about gunz than you so you dumb and i am the gunz genius.

I used to think this. But stuff like the Bundy adventures and Charlottesville made me realize that being armed to the teeth carries with it a certain bargaining leverage.

Yes if the **** really hits the fan and they go full war vs. the army they're ****ed. But it's so hard for me to see it getting to that point. The public outcry of white people dying in droves would be insane. Just look at Ruby Ridge and Waco. And half the army would probably revolt and join the militias.

Basically it's problem. And it could become a much bigger problem if the bptuneman of the world ever have any actual grievances other than made up nonsense.

Those would be pellets.

Growing up in a hunting family, we never called it pellets, only "shot". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shotgun_shell#Birdshot

Pellets came out of a pellet gun and looked like this:



Although "shotgun pellets" does have a vague ring to it.

Am I allowed to participate in the gun debate now, or do I have to be an expert on every consumer weapon for sale in the US?

Marco Rubio did.

Liberal hating gun nuts will be useful to the people who want to destroy democracy aka the actual tyrants. So will the mayhem created by having the populace armed to the teeth and killing each-other. This is why they are promoting it. Giving a **** about the second amendment and dreaming about scenarios where they stand up to the government in a civil war is a joke. The Bundy thing would be over in 20 minutes if they were serious about it.

An actual civil war? Like what’s happening in Syria? The only way the goofballs who think their AR-15 and glocks matter become more than an irritant is if actual arms are funneled to them.

Let’s be honest. Defending the constitution isn’t what these guys really dream about when they play their make-believe war games, it is killing the hoards of liberals and “urban looters” who will be looking for food when the grid goes dark. The nra and the right isn’t against that, they are actively feeding the narrative.

"One Click Headshot" by Feed Me is fantastic. That is all.

Agreed. But he had to be saved from the construction: "pulling out shotgun shell shot out of a bird."

Just don't talk about the semi-auto revolvers.

Fully agree about useless laws. If we ban detachable mags, capacity above 6, and handguns, then the laws will be real, not feel-good.

Pro-tip: If you need a revolution, get the enlisted troops on your side first, then you don't need all the hardware. Less mess, too.

I bet no one can aim and bump-fire free style for more than a couple rounds. But they'll have only six before a reload anyway.

If you only have 6 rounds it is probably no worse from a mass shooting POV if those rounds shoot automatically or not.

How about 2 guns per customer max? 3? 1?

The bump stock ban is basically a marketing ploy for an unpopular accessory imo. They will milk it For as long as possible to motivate sales before they are “gone forever.”

Cool story bro. Make sure you take a shirtless selfie with your new toy.

Imagine if you were walking by the park and a bunch of larpers started screeching you about the difference between a broadsword and a claymore or something equally dumb like that. Gun ******s have less social graces than a bunch of Renaissance nerds and apparently go outside way less.

Dude one response was fine but you died on that hill for no discernible reason.

Your reaction to my posts in that thread is what makes it so ironic to find you behaving similarly over here in the gun thread, except that your derail is only tangentially related to the topic at hand.

Clearly you don't care about gun violence bro.

You make good points. It's all too complicated, we don't understand it. Better ban all guns just to be safe.

I’ve got a pretty clear understanding of your trolling now and play along out of boredom, but this is too ridic for me to engage in. If this isn’t disingenuous then I’ll be content to let you figure it out on your own or find someone else to explain it to you.

oh yeah, let's discuss the views of more people who are private citizens right now.

Teacher, reserve cop accidentally fires gun in Calif. high school

Whoops.