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02-15-2018 , 04:16 PM

#25276

ReliableSource

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Quote:

Originally Posted by micro dong

Make it hard to get guns for mass shootings and these peeps will just copy the Islamic terrorists and use bombs and run people over instead.

i don't buy this. Why aren't we seeing schools get bombed today?

02-15-2018 , 04:17 PM

#25277

heh

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ReliableSource

i don't buy this. Why aren't we seeing schools get bombed today?

Because it's a **** claim

02-15-2018 , 04:20 PM

#25278

MrWookie

Don't Call Me Meredith

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Quote:

Originally Posted by micro dong

But if you want less 18-20 years olds around who have spent their whole school lives fantasizing about killing half their classmates, then perhaps you need to bring back the cane and Saturday detentions and fifty push ups and energy drink bans and whatever else would stop kids having to live through this everyday:

Have Japan, UK, Australia, the Netherlands, Germany, France, etc. all banned energy drinks? No, they ****ing banned guns, and that's why they don't have mass shootings.

02-15-2018 , 04:39 PM

#25279

Jbrochu

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Quote:

Originally Posted by champstark

Of course they are saying it's "hunting."

You think 83% of those ages 65 and older and 73% of gun owners ages 50-64 actually hunt?

The real reason is they fear black people and Mexicans, but they aren't gonna say that to a pollster.

BTW ain't nobody going hunting with a handgun or AR-15, which are the real problems. So who cares.

I don't think it's all or even significantly due to racism, although there is likely some component of that involved.

But gun ownership really started spiking when the NRA started fear mongering that the Feds were going to take all their guns away as a reaction to even the slightest attempt to change or introduce any legislation. Even things that clearly had no shot of passing.

I quit the NRA in the mid '90s when it became obvious to me that they wouldn't budge the tiniest bit on anything because they were being controlled by manufacturing interests and not their membership. It's gotten way worse since then.

02-15-2018 , 04:48 PM

#25280

Noze

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Food on the table is something I hadn't considered, socially inept millennials may just have a cannibalism problem.

02-15-2018 , 04:49 PM

#25281

champstark

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Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 14,838

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jbrochu

fear mongering that the Feds were going to take all their guns away

This is also directly tied to racism. All this **** is related.

This is why conservatives "hate big government."

02-15-2018 , 04:49 PM

#25282

ANONN123

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Quote:

Originally Posted by raradevils

Ironically I didn't feel the need to rush out and buy anymore guns then. I guess I have all I need to go hunting with.

Could you or could you not do the same amount of hunting with a muzzleloader if all other guns were banned?

02-15-2018 , 04:53 PM

#25283

Jbrochu

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bware

Could you or could you not do the same amount of hunting with a muzzleloader if all other guns were banned?

I doubt rara could hit a 55 gallon drum from 10 feet away with a blackpowder rifle.

02-15-2018 , 05:00 PM

#25284

Trolly McTrollson

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17 dead teens is just the price we have to pay to let people engage in Oregon Trail LARPing.

02-15-2018 , 05:04 PM

#25285

Pwn_Master

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Quote:

Originally Posted by champstark

This is also directly tied to racism. All this **** is related.

This is why conservatives "hate big government."

Well tbf "big government" did own their great-granddaddies during the Civil War. Reading GRANT and yeah, the parallels between the racist oppressors playing the "aggrieved victim" card back then and today are pretty obvious.

02-15-2018 , 05:04 PM

#25286

stinkubus

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Loki

Well, there were some school shootings "back in the day."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School..._United_States

Looks like 18 in the 60s. So the people on fb or twitter saying it just didn’t happen are liars.

18 incidents over the course of a decade where the only access to non-local news most folks had was one of the national papers or TV networks doesn't necessarily imply these people are lying. I'm sure there's millions alive from that era who have no memory of these type of events in their childhood.

02-15-2018 , 05:06 PM

#25287

ANONN123

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jbrochu

I doubt rara could hit a 55 gallon drum from 10 feet away with a blackpowder rifle.

Believe it or not, modern muzzleloaders are almost as accurate as modern rifles and can shoot 200+ yards

Anything above a muzzleloader is unnecessary for hunting unless you're going for birds

02-15-2018 , 05:10 PM

#25288

OneEyedPoker

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bware

Believe it or not, modern muzzleloaders are almost as accurate as modern rifles and can shoot 200+ yards

Anything above a muzzleloader is unnecessary for hunting unless you're going for birds

I think he was questioning raras capabilities to do anything rather than the accuracy of the guns

Also guys don't worry Jeff "anglo-american means common law and isn't racist" Sessions is giving exclusives to Breitbart

https://twitter.com/jdawsey1/status/964233861671673861

02-15-2018 , 05:10 PM

#25289

Loki

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Quote:

Originally Posted by stinkubus

The claim was "no one took their guns out and shot up schools" when that is demonstrably false. It happened less frequently and you were less likely to hear about it. No clue if news coverage back then fetishized the murderers or not.

02-15-2018 , 06:07 PM

#25290

MrFeelNothin

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Quote:

Originally Posted by micro dong

Before you carry out this sort of crime, you are going to spend a lot of time thinking about it first. There are a lot less serial killers today because they get caught before racking up the big numbers which leads to less public scrutiny and hence less serial killers (negative feedback) and with mass shootings it's the opposite (positive feedback).

Make it hard to get guns for mass shootings and these peeps will just copy the Islamic terrorists and use bombs and run people over instead.

But if you want less 18-20 years olds around who have spent their whole school lives fantasizing about killing half their classmates, then perhaps you need to bring back the cane and Saturday detentions and fifty push ups and energy drink bans and whatever else would stop kids having to live through this everyday:

Uhh yeah that is almost exactly what I hypothesized.

The rest of your post is complete bull****.

02-15-2018 , 06:35 PM

#25291

Huehuecoyotl

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02-15-2018 , 06:42 PM

#25292

Huehuecoyotl

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02-15-2018 , 07:23 PM

#25293

kerowo

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Quote:

Originally Posted by micro dong

Let them. There are tons of easy steps to take to prevent that kind of mayhem and if it ever gets to the degree of one every 3 days they'll be put in place. But lets get rid of the guns, which are causing a problem right the **** now and worry about the plethora of truck murders when they actually happen.

Last edited by kerowo; 02-15-2018 at 07:28 PM.

02-15-2018 , 09:14 PM

#25294

Loki

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if anyone is interested in seeing putin's twitter bot army in action and how they work on spreading propaganda to control the minds of gullible conservative americans, wired has you covered

https://www.wired.com/story/pro-gun-...land-shooting/

02-15-2018 , 10:51 PM

#25295

Namath12

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MrWookie

Guns per capita has increased, but households with guns has decreased. The increase in gun ownership is because of nutters buying more in a big way, not because of more widespread ownership. If anyone wants to argue that a redneck spending a paycheck on a 5th rifle makes everyone safer, please speak up so that I can lol at you.

Relevant

02-15-2018 , 11:15 PM

#25296

fatboy8

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Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 341

The folks that say that all the trucks in high school had guns on racks in the window, did they have AR-15s? I think if you asked everybody that wants to ban all guns if they'd accept banning all guns except hunting rifles I think you'd get they'd all say yes.

02-15-2018 , 11:16 PM

#25297

Loki

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Kentucky governor blames porn and video games for the school shooting, which is a weird phrase to use "school shooting" when it must have actually been a "digital nudity"

02-15-2018 , 11:47 PM

#25298

that_pope

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So that means the average gun owner owns 5 guns.

#necessary

02-16-2018 , 12:45 AM

#25299

KellyRae

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Quote:

Originally Posted by that_pope

So that means the average gun owner owns 5 guns.

#necessary

Based on 19% owning all of them??

02-16-2018 , 12:50 AM

#25300

SuperUberBob

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Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 48,217

Quote:

Originally Posted by KellyRae

Based on 19% owning all of them??

Well there are approximately 303 million guns in America (101 guns per 100 people). Assuming that there are 300 million people:

300,000,000 * .22 = 66,000,000

303,000,000/66,000,000 = 4.59

So you can't own .59 guns. So that's 4 per person

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So 3% of Americans own 50% of the guns

300,000,000 * .03 = 9,000,000 people
303,000,000 * .50 = 151,500,000 guns

151,500,000 / 9,000,000 = 16.83

So the top 3% of American gun owners own an average of 16 guns.

Yeah, totally necessary.

Last edited by SuperUberBob; 02-16-2018 at 01:05 AM. Reason: My math is ****ed

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