No automatic citizenship for anyone. Every single person takes the citizenship exam those fuzzy little foreigners have to take and if you don't pass we dump you in North Korea or someplace. Falcon2016: Making America great again. USA #1.

The primary thing the framers of the 14th Amendment failed to foresee was our barbaric system of denying virtually all foreigners any hope of living in the United States. They would not have imagined that bare citizenship would be the difference between being stranded in some awful Third World hellhole and the opportunity to build a better life for oneself here. However, the purpose of the birthright citizenship provision is to provide a check on the ability of the government to deny basic rights to people who were physically born here. So, while this particular situation may not have been expected, I think it falls well within the spirit of birthright citizenship.

The juxtaposition of this and him giving out medical advice is just too perfect.

http://thedailyshow.cc.com/extended-...nded-interview

Pony is probably dead and buried but this is IMO the best interview Stewart has ever done. Such a shame he's leaving soon.

Maternity tourism is so rare it would be stupid to set policy based around it.

lol it's not. Feds broke up 3 multimillion dollar operations last month. That doesn't even get into the millions who came to the country illegally and had a kid.

It also doesn't get into many other unrelated things too thanks ikes

One of those three served around 500 clients a year. In 2013 there were nearly four MILLION kids born in America. As I say, tiny insignificant numbers

Saying maternity tourism is unrelated to illegal immigrants having kids in the USA is really ****ing dumb bro. The same motivations are involved.


Automatic birth citizenship doesn't make much sense, and the USA is one of the few countries to do it. It isn't, however, a major problem.

It's somewhat of a new world/old world thing http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jus_soli

I dont really see the downside tbh.

Immigrants of all kinds giving birth to Americans in America is the system working as intended.

There are plenty of obvious downsides:

1) If you don't have a lot of room it's bad
2) If you give out a lot of welfare things it's bad

Are the most obvious

This
In Abe Lincoln's day, there was no such thing as illegal immigrants, anchor babies or any of it. Neither was it a novel idea that some of the huddled masses would have babies.

It's one of the ways we're better than countries like the Britain. I certainly hope we keep it.

I mean, it used to be that if a rich Chinese mother wanted her child to be able to build a better life in America, she would just move to America and build a life here. Now, we have a bunch of bizarre, often racist restrictions in the way, so she has to get more creative.

Automatic citizenship makes perfect sense. It's not just some random historical relic. The 14th Amendment was passed because people in the antebellum period had successfully argued that non-whites were not entitled to basic rights because they were not citizens. The birthright citizenship clause shuts down this argument for all people born in the U.S. Surprise, surprise, people today are complaining about it because they want to deny basic rights (such as the ability to live and work in one's chosen community) to a bunch of non-whites, and birthright citizenship prevents them from doing so. Boo ****ing hoo. They lose because their racist spiritual forebears lost the Civil War. Sucks to be them.

ikes supports less restrictions on immigration but will totally ikes the **** out of a discussion on birthright citizenship just because he can

Oh right, because I point out that law created in the 1860s, before ubiquitous international air travel, might be a little out of date I'm ikesing even though I say it's not actually a problem. Wow thanks goofy. Let's just ****ing choose sides and throw rocks at one another instead of actually discussing a subject.

Google is clogged with Chinese stories of birth tourism, but I wonder if this hasn't been a bigger thing between the US and Canada.

Worth noting that the best evidence of needing to change the law is the feds using another law to shut down people doing this.

Weren't you supposed to be a libertarian? Have you recently fully embraced conservativism?

Fly will be along soon to explain what is going on here, if you need help.

I'm a massive libertarian when it comes to immigration. Being able to evaluate something properly, and not simply dividing into teams and saying stupid **** is something you've never been able to do.

In a history of great politics posting, this might be the best, most oblivious ikestoys post of all time. Thoughts?

This is literally the same argument that is made by the people who think the Fourth Amendment is obsolete because terrorism. Excellent look.

Lol, ikes, is the second amendment a little out of date too?