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11-16-2011 , 04:26 PM

Pyramid_Scam

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http://www.cnn.com/2011/11/16/justic...let/index.html

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A man wanted in connection with a White House shooting incident was arrested Wednesday in Pennsylvania, the U.S. Secret Service announced.
Oscar Ramiro Ortega-Hernandez, who was arrested by Pennsylvania State Police near Indiana, Pennsylvania, was allegedly involved in a shooting Friday night that may be responsible for two bullets found at the White House.
One bullet hit a window and was stopped by bulletproof glass, and another was found on the White House exterior, the Secret Service said. Both bullets were found Tuesday.
There is no specific concern for President Barack Obama's safety, a Secret Service official not authorized to speak on the record told CNN.
The bullets were found on the south side of the White House, the official told CNN.
"A round was stopped by ballistic glass behind the historic exterior glass. One additional round has been found on the exterior of the White House. This damage has not been conclusively connected to Friday's incident, and an assessment of the exterior of the White House is ongoing," a Secret Service statement said.
Last Friday night at about 9 p.m., U.S. Park Police and the Secret Service investigated after hearing shots fired about 700 to 800 yards from the White House, the Secret Service statement said.
Within five minutes, officers located a vehicle in the 2300 block of Constitution Avenue. "Evidence in the vehicle led to U.S. Park Police obtaining an arrest warrant for Oscar Ortega-Hernandez," described as a 21-year-old Hispanic male, 5 feet 11 inches tall and weighing 160 pounds.
A weapon registered to Ortega-Hernandez was found in the car, according to a law enforcement source familiar with the investigation.
The Secret Service interviewed people who know Ortega-Hernandez, and determined he had a "direction of interest toward the president and the White House" -- a term that does not suggest a direct specific threat.
The FBI, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, and the Metropolitan Police Department all took part in the search for Ortega-Hernandez, officials said.
"There's always an outer perimeter and this was on the very outer perimeter of our security," the Secret Service official said. "The gun and car were found within several minutes. We have a lot of security -- a lot of layered security down there and the security worked."
The law enforcement official familiar with the investigation said when shots were heard Friday night, there were reports of tires screeching and cars racing.

What if Mr. Ortega-Hernandez got his AK-47 from Operation Fast and Furious.
That would be incredible. He was also found hanging out at the Occupy Camp.

So is he an occupier or just a nutjob looking for cover?

11-16-2011 , 04:52 PM

[Phill]

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I wonder if there are any more details you can make up about the case?

11-16-2011 , 04:55 PM

caseycjc

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LOL, I didn't read all that but the brief news report I got was he's a wack job who didn't know Obama was out of town. (if that was even the purpose of his actions)

11-16-2011 , 05:02 PM

FourFins

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Originally Posted by Pyramid_Scam

http://www.cnn.com/2011/11/16/justic...let/index.html

What if Mr. Ortega-Hernandez got his AK-47 from Operation Fast and Furious.
That would be incredible. He was also found hanging out at the Occupy Camp.

So is he an occupier or just a nutjob looking for cover?

I know you will desperately want to link this to Occupy, but I don't see any details of him being at the camp in your story.

11-16-2011 , 05:10 PM

AtThe Aquarium

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Jared Loughner was a neo-nazi/conservative tho.

11-16-2011 , 05:19 PM

mosdef

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Originally Posted by FourFins

I know you will desperately want to link this to Occupy, but I don't see any details of him being at the camp in your story.

Are they even having OWS in Washington? Does OP know that WS is not in DC?

11-16-2011 , 05:27 PM

Pyramid_Scam

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Originally Posted by mosdef

Are they even having OWS in Washington? Does OP know that WS is not in DC?

McPherson Square ???

11-16-2011 , 05:55 PM

Low Key

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Originally Posted by Pyramid_Scam

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Originally Posted by FourFins

I know you will desperately want to link this to Occupy, but I don't see any details of him being at the camp in your story.

Well of course it's not in the story, duh. You have to read the comments to get the real facts of stories posted on the internet:

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NuttinWrong
"Authorities suspect Ortega-Hernandez had been in the area for weeks, coming back and forth to the Washington Mall. Before the shooting, he was detained by local police at an abandoned house. U.S. Park police say Ortega may have spent time with Occupy D.C. protesters."
~ABC News.....

Why would CNN omit this? hmmmmmmmmm

11-16-2011 , 06:03 PM

DCsmalls

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Originally Posted by Low Key

Well of course it's not in the story, duh. You have to read the comments to get the real facts of stories posted on the internet:

lol at attacking OP.. you OWSers accuse people who disagree with your views as not being open minded. OP just stated two simple, yet valid points, and you guys instantly attack what he says without even informing yourself on the situation because he does not agree with you.

Every single thing about your movement is hypocritical and that is why the true majority of people just see you as a nuisance and nothing else.

11-16-2011 , 06:06 PM

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I guess it helps if you know OPs posting history..

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11-16-2011 , 06:09 PM

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Investigators say Ortega has several distinctive tattoos, including several dots on his right hand. He also has the word "Israel" tattooed on the left side of his neck.

Another neocon zionist nutjob like Anders Breivik who wants to take out the crypto-muslim for Israel...obvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv

11-16-2011 , 06:16 PM

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Brons

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Originally Posted by http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/17/us/bullet-that-struck-the-white-house-is-found.html?_r=1&hp

The agency had also released photographs showing that Mr. Ortega had distinctive tattoos, including the word “Israel” on the left side of his neck. He is also said to have three dots tattooed on his right hand, the name “Ortega” on his back, rosary beads and hands clasped in prayer on his right chest and folded hands on his left chest.

Crazies gonna crazy but if it turns it this is a right wing religious nut job I'm gonna lol pretty hard at OP.

11-16-2011 , 06:19 PM

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MrWookie

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Originally Posted by DCsmalls

What? "Having an open mind" is quite different from fabricating accusations out of whole cloth and disguising them as speculation.

11-16-2011 , 06:20 PM

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Tiltmonkey2

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Originally Posted by DCsmalls

Aren't the true majority one of the reasons we were at war with Iraq. Throughout history it seems that the true majority generally gets it wrong. You know the true majority once thought the world was flat too.

11-16-2011 , 06:21 PM

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Tien

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He's angry Junior Dos Santos rocked Cain Valesquez in the UFC.

11-16-2011 , 06:22 PM

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MrWookie

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So yeah, OP, do you have a citation for the fact that this guy was an Occupy protester? If not, please admit that you're making **** up.

11-16-2011 , 06:24 PM

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Low Key

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Originally Posted by MrWookie

So yeah, OP, do you have a citation for the fact that this guy was an Occupy protester? If not, please admit that you're making **** up.

Hello, comments section!

11-16-2011 , 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Pyramid_Scam

What if Pyramid_Scam is a pedophile and likes to touch children and kill kittens.

So is he a pedo or just a kitten strangler?

Last edited by jgrimmer44; 11-16-2011 at 06:25 PM. Reason: isnt it fun when we just make things up! :)

11-16-2011 , 08:14 PM

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Money2Burn

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Originally Posted by MrWookie

So yeah, OP, do you have a citation for the fact that this guy was an Occupy protester? If not, please admit that you're making **** up.

Uhhhh, duh?

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Originally Posted by DCsmalls

lol at attacking OP.. you OWSers accuse people who disagree with your views as not being open minded. OP just stated two simple, yet valid points, and you guys instantly attack what he says without even informing yourself on the situation because he does not agree with you.

Every single thing about your movement is hypocritical and that is why the true majority of people just see you as a nuisance and nothing else.

WHAT PART OF SIMPLE AND VALID DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND???

11-16-2011 , 08:18 PM

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Look guys, we need to stop these baseless attacks. I know there has been speculation that Pyramid_Scam is a serial llama rapist, and it may be true that right at this moment people are thinking about whether or not he had a role in faking the moon landing, but at present these are all completely unsubstantiated accusations. It's not fair to tar a feather a guy just because somebody on the internet alludes to the possibility that he's into necrophilia. Others may be talking about these sorts of things, but we should avoid it here.

11-16-2011 , 10:28 PM

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MrWookie

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So, I've gotten some reports about the last few posts in this thread. It appears that, surprisingly enough, everyone is agreement that jgrimmer's and zikzak's speculations about the OP have exactly as much credibility as they ascribe to OP's speculation regarding the gunman's ties to OWS. People who think the gunman is an Occupier think the pedophilia accusations are serious, and people who think the OWS connection has no merit lampoon that seriousness with no actual belief in their accusations for the purposes of satire.

11-16-2011 , 10:38 PM

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Pyramid_Scam

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Originally Posted by MrWookie

If you think they are comparable you are not as smart as I thought you were.

11-16-2011 , 10:39 PM

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Pyramid_Scam

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Originally Posted by mosdef

Are they even having OWS in Washington? Does OP know that WS is not in DC?

The camp is 2 blocks from the whitehouse

11-16-2011 , 10:49 PM

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Omar Comin

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Pyramid_Scam was in the showers with Sandusky, whaaat

11-16-2011 , 10:52 PM

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[Phill]

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PS,

the fastest way to claim victory is quote something where he was at an occupy rally.

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