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01-18-2016 , 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Noodle Wazlib
What is theme diabriefing?
01-18-2016 , 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by JayTeeMe
NYT article on why tuition keeps going up despite more public funding and stagnant wages for professors.

Hint: the number of administrators has more than tripled and their salaries have exploded too.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/05/op..._1=255674&_r=0
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while the total number of full-time faculty members in the C.S.U. system grew from 11,614 to 12,019 between 1975 and 2008, the total number of administrators grew from 3,800 to 12,183 — a 221 percent increase.
Wow..but what is the response to this? How are these extra administrators justified?
01-18-2016 , 01:08 PM
they're justified for whatever reason, who cares. The reason they're there is that the feds have guaranteed what they charge without providing any sort of cap on what they'll guarantee
01-18-2016 , 02:18 PM
This was shared w/ me recently by my conservative (and racist) family member.

Get INDIGNANT. Top 20% account for 84% of our income taxes. Don't bother looking at what percent of newly generated wealth goes to the top 1% (99%) or how much income the top percent or two account for. It's irrelevant.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/top-20-o...tax-1428674384
01-18-2016 , 02:26 PM
That darkie is eying your cookie!
01-18-2016 , 03:01 PM
Also, of course, ignore Payroll and Sales taxes.
01-18-2016 , 03:55 PM
I actually thought that accounted for payroll taxes.
01-18-2016 , 03:57 PM
DIB You either have lots of dumb people on your FB or your dumb people on FB are kinda prolific.
01-18-2016 , 04:10 PM
I'm not crazy, right? Net worth of various quintiles should be considered when formulating a fair tax policy?

I point out how the bottom quintile have a negative $6,000 net worth (avg) while the top quintile have a $600,000 net worth.

I'm also unsure how best to respond to a "flat tax is equal/fair" argument.
01-18-2016 , 04:20 PM
1 dollar is worth much more to someone with 20 bucks to their name than it is to someone with 20000
01-18-2016 , 04:20 PM
Point out that it's a huge scam/tax break for the ultra wealthy and tax increase on the poor?

Careful there ikes, starting to sound almost Keynsian
01-18-2016 , 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by DudeImBetter
I'm not crazy, right? Net worth of various quintiles should be considered when formulating a fair tax policy?

I point out how the bottom quintile have a negative $6,000 net worth (avg) while the top quintile have a $600,000 net worth.

I'm also unsure how best to respond to a "flat tax is equal/fair" argument.
The effect on wealth distribution is certainly a factor when evaluating tax policy.
01-18-2016 , 04:34 PM


Guys it's cold in the midwest, so global warming isn't real again. Also what is it with Republicans and the global warming / climate change thing? They all seem to think that settled the entire debate with the all-time gotcha.
01-18-2016 , 05:05 PM
From this ****ing dude over the past hour. I'm constantly going at it with these two guys, has been killing my productivity at work far worse that 2+2, mostly why I've been uninvolved for awhile here.

"It's as if it's a right for the "99%" have a right to the 1% wealth. Not only is that not American, it's greedy and thievery."

"(DIB), the scratching my head still stands. Having a negative net worth is irrelevant to tax code. Do you know how taxes work?"

"Donald trump filed bankruptcy guess he's part of the 99%."

"As is Hillary. She's in the 99 percent of the 1 percenters. Tax break coming."

"Free education that will assure you to be undereducated for the job market!!!"

"Let's do to higher education what the ACA did for healthcare - puppy dogs and rainbows for everyone!"

"It's a right to take money from others and redistribute it to others That did nothing to earn it! Cus rights and stuff."

"It's just mind blowing how one can't see the greed and thievery going after the 1%."
01-18-2016 , 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by suzzer99


Guys it's cold in the midwest, so global warming isn't real again. Also what is it with Republicans and the global warming / climate change thing? They all seem to think that settled the entire debate with the all-time gotcha.
they are stupid, or being intentionally ignorant. they are consistent at least, it isn't the only sciency type stuff they don't believe.

01-18-2016 , 05:40 PM
suzzer are you posting your real life friends names on an internet board passive aggressively? Pretty pathetic if so.
01-18-2016 , 05:47 PM
I love how the climate change deniers forgot they invented the term climate change to lessen the impact of global warming.
01-18-2016 , 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by DudeImBetter
From this ****ing dude over the past hour. I'm constantly going at it with these two guys, has been killing my productivity at work far worse that 2+2, mostly why I've been uninvolved for awhile here.

"It's as if it's a right for the "99%" have a right to the 1% wealth. Not only is that not American, it's greedy and thievery."

"(DIB), the scratching my head still stands. Having a negative net worth is irrelevant to tax code. Do you know how taxes work?"

"Donald trump filed bankruptcy guess he's part of the 99%."

"As is Hillary. She's in the 99 percent of the 1 percenters. Tax break coming."

"Free education that will assure you to be undereducated for the job market!!!"

"Let's do to higher education what the ACA did for healthcare - puppy dogs and rainbows for everyone!"

"It's a right to take money from others and redistribute it to others That did nothing to earn it! Cus rights and stuff."

"It's just mind blowing how one can't see the greed and thievery going after the 1%."
As bad face book political arguments go this shouldn't make your list. You seem to disagree on what is a fair tax policy which is subjective.

Last edited by seattlelou; 01-18-2016 at 06:47 PM.
01-18-2016 , 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by [Phill]
I love how the climate change deniers forgot they invented the term climate change to lessen the impact of global warming.
lol phill can you be right about anything?
01-18-2016 , 08:51 PM
That was my understanding also. Did they not lead an effort to change the term to something different?
01-18-2016 , 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by rjoefish
That was my understanding also. Did they not lead an effort to change the term to something different?
Technically the term inadvertent climate modification was first, global warming was referring to the surface temperature rising and climate change referred to the overarching effects on the planet. Global warming caught on in popular usage because of some testimony given in Congress, but climate change is used because it's the more scientifically accurate description. In reality global warming is causing climate change. I'm sure interest groups have done polling and used whatever sounds the scariest/nicest.
01-18-2016 , 09:12 PM
I thought it was common knowledge Luntz got the Bush administration to start using climate change cause it sounded 'less scary'.

Last edited by rjoefish; 01-18-2016 at 09:21 PM.
01-18-2016 , 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by rjoefish
That was my understanding also. Did they not lead an effort to change the term to something different?
What does the IPCC stand for, who founded it, and what year was it founded?
01-18-2016 , 09:24 PM
It looks like it was founded in 1988, so I'm curious what your point is since people were using "global warming" well into the 2000s, so obviously the IPCC wasn't the driving factor?
01-18-2016 , 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by goofyballer
It looks like it was founded in 1988, so I'm curious what your point is since people were using "global warming" well into the 2000s, so obviously the IPCC wasn't the driving factor?
Yeah, are you sure 'global warming' was the dominate term people were using?

(it's hilarious to watch liberals argue a myth is true that conservatives initially started to discredit climate change)

      
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