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January LC Thread : Survivor White House Edition

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02-03-2019 , 01:41 PM

#2351

bigt2k4

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jman220

Really? bigt2k4 really wasn’t sure why there wasn’t a huge outrage over Cartman on South Park wearing Ku Klux Klan Robes thus making fun of people who do so, and why conversely there is outrage over Northam? You think that was legitimate questioning and not JAQ’ing around?

No, that wasn't my intention at all. I just assumed everyone here was in agreement that blackface and Klan costumes are extremely racist, but I thought of instances where they might not be automatically considered by most people to be racist.

02-03-2019 , 01:53 PM

#2352

DodgerIrish

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Clovis8

As I said, the whole discussion was stupid and bigt’s post is trump stupid. Most of it still seemed like a legit discussion and not just trolling. I mean melkerson posted like three times that black face was racist and he was just curious to debate the edges. Chris even posted he once debated the edges.

All I was saying is there is a difference between a dumb discussion, even when the answer is obvious to most people, and trolling.

Spoiler:

02-03-2019 , 01:56 PM

#2353

bigt2k4

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I'd like to move on, but when half the forum calls you racist when they assume motives behind your posts that are non-existent I feel like I'm obligated to defend myself.

02-03-2019 , 02:03 PM

#2354

DodgerIrish

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Just a guy trying to save face.

02-03-2019 , 02:15 PM

#2355

bobman0330

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Melkerson

Sure. But not a single person here is defending either the blackface or the KKK hood.

If the discussion doesn’t relate to the topic of the thread, then why is it in the thread?

02-03-2019 , 02:16 PM

#2356

bobman0330

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rockfsh

If you were one of the bozos in that photo would you come forward?

One of them already did.

02-03-2019 , 02:26 PM

#2357

lol_at_you

grinder

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bobman0330

One of them already did.

Was it the one playing the jocko or the david duke character?

02-03-2019 , 02:34 PM

#2358

6ix

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Join Date: Aug 2017 Posts: 4,797

grunching again

Quote:

Originally Posted by jman220

Enough with the “Just asking questions” trolling about blackface. It is transparent and obvious. Blackface is racist and bad, asking questions about why Tropic Thunder or South Park are socially acceptable in a manner to cast doubt on that premise is trolling. Anyone else does it after this post is eating a ban.

If I get to the end and see that both sides are incorrect, can I do a PSA?

02-03-2019 , 02:46 PM

#2359

Victor

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my side is correct. blackface bad. tropic thunder may or may not be bad despite it not getting criticism but in this converstation, who effin cares.

02-03-2019 , 03:02 PM

#2360

Melkerson

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson

jman's modding here is fine. If you're legitimately perplexed in 2019 about why it's okay for an actor to play a character wearing blackface in a transgressive comedy role, you just need to take everyone else's word that RDJ is okay. This forum isn't the venue for us to explain basic social norms to you.

The problem is not only people who are "legitimately perplexed", it's also people who think they understand the issue, but clearly don't.

As far as the ultimate conclusion is concerned this guy is clearly on the same side as everyone else. But do you think he really gets it:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul D

You are missing the point.

Downey Jr wasn't doing blackface. He was portraying a black character. There's a big difference.

Everyone just wants to say, "Well, sure every non-racist understands why TT was OK". The above should be enough for you to conclude that they actually don't.

02-03-2019 , 04:08 PM

#2361

6ix

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Melkerson, you're running your mouth an awful lot at Paul D when he was the only person who gave you a correct and substantive answer.

02-03-2019 , 04:22 PM

#2362

Melkerson

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 6ix

Melkerson, you're running your mouth an awful lot at Paul D when he was the only person who gave you a correct and substantive answer.

So, you're saying RDJ "wasn't doing blackface"? This just keeps getting better. The more of you guys there are, the more it justifies the whole derail.

02-03-2019 , 04:23 PM

#2363

LFS

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If we're going to stay on the "Was this movie racist?" derail, let's talk about how badly Gung Ho has aged.

02-03-2019 , 04:31 PM

#2364

Trolly McTrollson

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Melkerson

Everyone just wants to say, "Well, sure every non-racist understands why TT was OK". The above should be enough for you to conclude that they actually don't.

Eh, I think Paul is just being non-literal. RDJ the person isn't wearing blackface and saying "******ed" a lot, it's the character he's portraying that's doing these things and it's the character that deserves whatever moral scorn we have.

I'll leave it alone and go cook some chili now.

02-03-2019 , 04:32 PM

#2365

dlk9s

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This thread is wearing AIDS face.

02-03-2019 , 04:33 PM

#2366

Clovis8

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson

Obviously this. Jesus guys. This one is not hard to understand.

02-03-2019 , 04:34 PM

#2367

Melkerson

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Quote:

Originally Posted by LFS

If we're going to stay on the "Was this movie racist?" derail, let's talk about how badly Gung Ho has aged.

That was '80s, right? Probably in Soul Man territory.

02-03-2019 , 04:40 PM

#2368

Melkerson

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson

Oh, how silly of me. When he said RDJ wasn't doing blackface, he didn't actually mean it.

Nice attempt at gaslighting, but if we play back the tape, we can see that he actually doubled down on it:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul D

You are missing the point.

Downey Jr wasn't doing blackface. He was portraying a black character. There's a big difference.

Then, I call him out, and he comes back with this:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul D

Okay,
I'm going to take a wild guess you have no clue what went on in Tropic Thunder because you would understand why Downey Jr wasn't doing blackface.

I mean, have you stopped and thought why there wasn't a huge outrage from the black community like you see elsewhere?

I mean come on. Just admit it was a stupid thing for him to write and move on.

02-03-2019 , 04:48 PM

#2369

tabbaker

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I think it's ridiculous to threaten bans over this discussion but the real trolls get to spout their anti climate change garbage in other threads.

02-03-2019 , 04:51 PM

#2370

6ix

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lol nvm

Last edited by 6ix; 02-03-2019 at 04:56 PM.

02-03-2019 , 04:51 PM

#2371

Lawnmower Man

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We are just going down a definitional black hole here on what technically counts as doing blackface. Maybe it's worth having its own thread because we haven't even gotten to digital blackface yet. But also, maybe not.

02-03-2019 , 04:51 PM

#2372

+rep_lol

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not enough moderation itt

02-03-2019 , 05:12 PM

#2373

6ix

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Melkerson

So, you're saying RDJ "wasn't doing blackface"? This just keeps getting better. The more of you guys there are, the more it justifies the whole derail.

Obviously he wasn't. 'Blackface' has a definition you can look up right now. Kindly put your reply in this thread:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/4...nkers-1735337/

p.s. And to be totally honest, I'm actually kinda offended by your apparent notion that 'blackface' means 'painting one's face black' (don't worry you're not alone not even close). It shows you don't know or care to know what actually is so otherworldly offensive about blackface.