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January LC Thread : Survivor White House Edition

View Poll Results: Who will NOT survive the month of January?

Matthew Whitaker

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Kjrstyn Njielessen

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Sarah Huckabee Sanders

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Steve Mnuchin

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Wilbur Ross

2 5.41%

Stephen Miller

0 0%

Rod Rosenstein

3 8.11%

Roger Stone*

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Donald Trump Jr*

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01-30-2019 , 04:54 PM

#2176

microbet

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Originally Posted by suzzer99

If only we lived on Mars where Olympus Mons is practically out in space already.

Maybe we could just make a 22000 mile tall pile of garbage?

01-30-2019 , 04:57 PM

#2177

ANONN123

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Just a few more shutdowns and the national parks may get there

01-30-2019 , 04:58 PM

#2178

suzzer99

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I got it. Build a gigantic carbon nanotube ring around the equator at 250 miles up. It would be more or less balanced by gravity so it wouldn't want come crashing to earth. Rockets could adjust if it started to slip off in one direction. Attach the space elevator to the ring.

01-30-2019 , 04:59 PM

#2179

kerowo

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Originally Posted by microbet

Peer-to-peer communication can maybe displace satellite needs?

Also with miniaturization maybe we should look at shooting like softball sized satellites into orbit out of a cannon instead of sending them up in rockets? Maybe shoot up some robots to assemble stuff.

The problem is accelerating stuff to 11.2km/s (about Mach 33) over a long enough time that it’s not pulverized. Get something up to 11.2km/s and as long as it isn’t pointed at the ground it’s not coming back.

01-30-2019 , 05:01 PM

#2180

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Maybe it'd be more efficient to just have robots build all the spy satellites on the moon and launch them into orbit from there.

01-30-2019 , 05:03 PM

#2181

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Originally Posted by kerowo

Getting a softball sized thing up to that speed seems more feasible than building a 22000 mile vertical structure.

01-30-2019 , 05:03 PM

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kerowo

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Originally Posted by suzzer99

Read Seveneves by Neal Stephenson, he does something similar at the end of the book. And also destroys the moon. Interesting book.

01-30-2019 , 05:03 PM

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TrollyWantACracker

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What if you built the elevator in space and then just dropped it?

01-30-2019 , 05:06 PM

#2184

suzzer99

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Drop those rods of god things from space onto a giant teeter-totter that launches other things updward. Seems efficient.

01-30-2019 , 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by microbet

Getting a softball sized thing up to that speed seems more feasible than building a 22000 mile vertical structure.

The other problem is that unless you have a way of changing velocities in space, you're never getting to orbit from the ground.

01-30-2019 , 05:07 PM

#2186

suzzer99

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Schultz is going to need his own thread at this rate.

Nice job making it out of govt-subsidized housing when the top tax rate was 91% to become a self-made man Howard. Could you maybe not kick the ladder out behind you though?

01-30-2019 , 05:11 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TrollyWantACracker

What if you built the elevator in space and then just dropped it?

Quote:

Prior to the work of Edwards in 2000[14] most concepts for constructing a space elevator had the cable manufactured in space.

Apparently, more recent work involves launching bits up to be assembled and then dropped. (I think.)

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_elevator

01-30-2019 , 05:12 PM

#2188

Max Cut

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****ing Howard Schultz.

Way back, I was a barista and then a manager for the evil empire under his regime.

01-30-2019 , 05:13 PM

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Namath12

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Saw a stat today, the ratio of his CEO salary to the mean Starbucks peon salary was 204:1

01-30-2019 , 05:16 PM

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I can’t remember anyone who has generated universal revulsion like Howard Schultz. I mean, I think Stephen Miller has a few remaining apologists... in contrast, just pure hate from all directions. What a world class tool.

01-30-2019 , 05:20 PM

#2191

TrollyWantACracker

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I for one look forward to a battle between Boss Starbucks and the Burger King for all the marbles

01-30-2019 , 05:22 PM

#2192

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In our world sure. In low-info land apparently he's generating some buzz and getting some interest.

01-30-2019 , 05:26 PM

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The other problem is that unless you have a way of changing velocities in space, you're never getting to orbit from the ground.

Aim it up the right amount and then little rockets. Once you're in space you don't need much to make adjustments.

01-30-2019 , 05:33 PM

#2194

kerowo

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Originally Posted by microbet

Aim it up the right amount and then little rockets. Once you're in space you don't need much to make adjustments.

Softball doesn’t have much room for fuel and orbits decay all the time...

01-30-2019 , 05:35 PM

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suzzer99

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Precision skipping off the atmosphere like a stone ftw.

01-30-2019 , 05:35 PM

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In our world sure. In low-info land apparently he's generating some buzz and getting some interest.

And again, this is because 60 Minutes this week decided that he alone out of the umpteen who've declared needed his own special profile in primetime, and he's gotten wall-to-wall coverage since. And THAT is because he's a ****ing billionaire.

Howard Schultz, Owner & General Manager of Unpainted Arizona or whatever the **** never gets that, ever.

01-30-2019 , 05:40 PM

#2197

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It's becoming obvious to me that the only way Europe was ever able to achieve the level of socialism it's at was because of mono-culture.

The second you introduce another group it's just too trivially easy for the elites to get them pitted against each other.

They can't verbalize it, but if you give Trumpfans the choice of a) you will do better, but some minorities will do much better vs. b) you will do worse but those minorities will know they are second class citizens - they're choosing b) every time.

01-30-2019 , 05:42 PM

#2198

kerowo

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Probably an easier transition from monarchy to socialism than from a republic as well.

01-30-2019 , 05:43 PM

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Trolly McTrollson

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Originally Posted by suzzer99

Yes the idea is to basically have sort of a floating tower of loosely connected sections that helps support itself somehow and can still support a load between two sections when needed.

I also was assuming you still have help from the satellite out at 22k miles - pulling as much as it can. Although even in space with little gravity is a 21,800 mile cable feasible? Probably not. It probably snaps just from its own inertia.

So new the plan is a massive solar-powered drive thingy at 250 miles up - which produces enough lift to geosynchronously orbit at 250 miles w/o decaying, and pull some cargo on top of that.

There’s still plenty of gravity 22k miles above Earth.

01-30-2019 , 05:47 PM

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But it's balanced by centripetal force. So the object is essentially weightless w/respect to the earth. Not at 10k miles though - it will want to decay there.

Looks like gravity is 1.8m/s2 - about 20% of 9.8m/s2 at 22k miles.

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