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11-25-2015 , 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Jbrochu
Doesn't it make all those racists look even worse if Ahmed et al were able to predict the totally out-of-control racist reaction that would set up a major lawsuit?

I mean I figure team Ahmed could have decided after the fact to pursue a lawsuit, but what do I know...
Well obviously #teamagenda doesn't think folks decide to sue after something happens. They set it all up so they can sue, especially those conniving Muslims.
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11-25-2015 , 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson
Never heard of this guy before. I assume they're grooming a replacement for when George Will retires?
No, incredibly, he's a reporter. That's a NEWS ARTICLE. It's not opinion. Ole' Callum borched up his trousers and did the legwork and determined that the libtard media was hiding the truth about hoax boy from Real Americans cause of how this lawsuit punctured the Narrative.
11-25-2015 , 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Jbrochu
Doesn't it make all those racists look even worse if Ahmed et al were able to predict the totally out-of-control racist reaction that would set up a major lawsuit?

I mean I figure team Ahmed could have decided after the fact to pursue a lawsuit, but what do I know...
Yeah the racist cops don't look good either way.

However unless we're conceding that we don't care about the truth anymore just symbolic point we want to make - then liberal media outlets who trumpeted clock boy as a cause celeb don't look too good imo. Nor does the president, Google science fair, etc. They should have paused a bit imo before becoming completely committed to the story.

The kid took apart a clock, put it in a case and took it to school. There is zero science involved in that. In his own words he admitted he knew it might look suspicious. He plugged it into a wall in class so the alarm would go off (this is not a battery operated device) - after being told to keep it in his backpack the rest of the day. Then he seemed extremely coached in the aftermath. Lol at the idea if the political poles were reversed any liberals would be giving him the extreme benefit of the doubt like this.

Again (trying to anticipate all the ways my argument will be twisted) - do I think he planned this from the beginning to blow up into a national story and make money? No of course not. Do I think it's very likely a prime motivation was to needle his teachers or mess with his classmates? Yes that seems very likely. Which again - doesn't make the cops look any better. But it does take some of the wind out of the sails of the "Muslim science whiz thwarted by racist system" story.

Conservatives on chiefsplanet and a mailing list I'm on are doing backflips on this one. It's annoying because for once they probably have a point. Liberals can't claim the high ground on truth vs. truthiness if they're going to go to the mat on stuff like this. I don't agree with Bill Maher on a lot of things - but he's nailed this one from the beginning.

I'm going to unsubscribe now while my character is annihilated.

Last edited by suzzer99; 11-25-2015 at 07:38 PM.
11-25-2015 , 07:31 PM
Well conservatives on Chiefsplanet don't seem very bright, so I'm not sure how that is supposed to help color this for me.

I just don't see how the lawsuit changes anything at all about the story. I mean why not sue after all that **** went down?
11-25-2015 , 07:59 PM
What even is the argument here? A small family tricked the local government in probably the most Islamophobic part of America into racially abusing them - and that is bad?

Does this make the kid more or less heroic? I'd argue more so.

This was the easiest trap to avoid ever. Just don't racially profile and assault the minority child who had a clock that arresting officers said he never threatened anyone with in any way (thus by definition he never broke the law). At the very least don't ****ing perp walk him out of school in cuffs you ****ing idiots.
11-25-2015 , 08:12 PM
Lawsuit changes very little to me. Still don't think it was a hoax, still think the same thing could have happened to a white kid. Just honest dumb all around, imo.
11-25-2015 , 08:19 PM
I agree the cops behaved irresponsibly, and he should receive some minor compensation. Can't deprive him of his rights like that.

Rest of the story is pure garbage, and the way it was portrayed in the press that he was the victim of some injustice because of his looks/religion was vile.
11-25-2015 , 08:26 PM
How does the lawsuit prove that racism/bigotry was uninvolved?
11-25-2015 , 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by domer2
I agree the cops behaved irresponsibly, and he should receive some minor compensation. Can't deprive him of his rights like that.

Rest of the story is pure garbage, and the way it was portrayed in the press that he was the victim of some injustice because of his looks/religion was vile.
Domer in the other thread you explicitly talk about how you personally believe, and argue other people should believe, that Muslims are uniquely dangerous due to their religion's support for terrorism.

So your theory is that you are ALONE in that view, that there's no chance anyone involved in the story agrees with you?
11-25-2015 , 08:44 PM
http://irvingblog.dallasnews.com/201...ddresses.html/

This is the SAME TOWN. "Islamaphobia, in Irving, Texas? What a vile smear by the anti-white lamestream media".
11-25-2015 , 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by suzzer99
Yes I'm sure the idea to sue for $15M popped into their heads a long time after the incident, and didn't color their depiction of events in any way. And Mark Cuban on team agenda saying the kid seemed to be coached by his older sister.
Well if Mark Cuban said it, I guess I'm wrong, I drop all objections.

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Originally Posted by domer2
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...4361&tid=ss_tw



Guess we won't be getting any mea culpas.
lol domer
11-25-2015 , 08:51 PM
The mayor of Irving is very open about being anti Islam, we'll before she backed a child being cuffed and arrested for owning a timepiece. I wasn't close to being hyperbolic about it probably being the most Islamophobic part of America.
11-26-2015 , 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by suzzer99
However unless we're conceding that we don't care about the truth anymore just symbolic point we want to make - then liberal media outlets who trumpeted clock boy as a cause celeb don't look too good imo. Nor does the president, Google science fair, etc. They should have paused a bit imo before becoming completely committed to the story.
other than the fact that there's a hint of assuming the kid is somehow at fault for doing what he did, i agree with this post
10-27-2017 , 09:42 AM
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02-23-2019 , 10:06 AM
02-23-2019 , 10:31 AM
Two trolling grifters drifting past each other in the tangled web of the internet
02-23-2019 , 10:43 AM
Clock Boy's ability to make posters tell on themselves is legendary.
02-23-2019 , 12:28 PM
ya if you can somehow come away from that whole clock boy travesty and think the kid is in any way deserving of criticism then you are 100% a scumbag.
02-23-2019 , 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by domer2
Two trolling grifters drifting past each other in the tangled web of the internet
If you see a kid tinkering with electronics and enjoying it, and your reaction is anything other than "Good for you, kid! Keep at it!" even if the kid is still on a pretty basic level and even if the kid is being hyperbolic and imaginative about what is actually happening, that's on you. That is your failing, not the kid's.
02-23-2019 , 01:17 PM
The kid is obviously trolling, because he intentionally made his suitcase beep during his english class by his own account. His teacher did not care up until that point.

In fact he showed it to other teachers who didn't care. The police overreacted initially, but he was never charged with anything. His victimhood was a total exaggeration, trumpeted up because it dovetailed with what people already believed.

By the way, his family tried suing like virtually everybody as I posted about before this thread died. Fast forward to today, they had every lawsuit dismissed (in fact, had to pay court costs on some because the lawsuits were so bad).
02-23-2019 , 01:57 PM
That's one way to look at it.

Or, the kid got arrested for bringing a clock to school for a science project.

And ofc the lawsuits were dismissed in Muslim hating and LEO loving American south.
02-23-2019 , 02:22 PM
Clearly, the tricksy kid fooled the grownups into being racist *******s. It's like Brer Rabbit, only somehow more racist.
02-23-2019 , 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by domer2
The police overreacted initially, but he was never charged with anything. His victimhood was a total exaggeration
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02-23-2019 , 03:33 PM
Domer, jjj whatever the **** and some others are the people we need to tolerate to make Mason happy I guess.
02-23-2019 , 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Victor
Or, the kid got arrested for bringing a clock to school for a science project.
Lol.

He got arrested because they thought it was an intentional hoax. No charges pressed in the end.

At no point, even by his own account, did anyone think it was an actual bomb. His science teacher thought it was impressive. His english teacher thought it was a hoax bomb.

The only reason anything happened was because he intentionally made it beep during a class.

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Originally Posted by Victor
And ofc the lawsuits were dismissed in Muslim hating and LEO loving American south.
Come on, are you serious here?

The main case was in FEDERAL (not state) court in front of a judge appointed by Bill Clinton. Further, if the family thought that they didn't get a fair shake because it was the "American south", they could have appealed to a higher court. But the case was completely bereft of evidence, so they didn't file an appeal.

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Originally Posted by goofyballer
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To reiterate, he SUED for discrimination and the judge dismissed the case, because they presented no evidence of any discrimination at any point.

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