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Originally Posted by ShoveOrFold
If you haven't figured it out yet, I'll clue you in. There is no way to have common ground anymore. The polarization is so extreme now there is no middle/compromise position to be found without one side completely caving.
If I believed that, I wouldn't bother posting. However, in light of recent events regarding online poker, I believe now is an opportune moment to reach out and try to reach more common ground.
Of course, I vacillate between trying to engage others in intelligent discussion and throwing up my hands, walking away, and looking for my Fukitol-CR pills ...just depends on the circumstances and my mood.
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Right-wing ideas (capitalism, small government, personal responsibility, limited gov't role in economy,etc) has been proven to be the correct philosophy. Even leftist Europe is swinging to center-right. France won't even let muslims where the burqa's. We need to be that strong. PM Merckel og Germany has stated that multi-culturalism has failed and is not viable. How long until we realize this.
Left-wing ideas (all-encompassing gov't, enormous taxation to provide social equality, nanny-state to run most phases of our lives) has failed EVERYWHERE it has been tried. Why should we compromise into some of their failed ideas.
Even more reason to believe that now is an opportune moment. What better illustration is there than to witness the failure of these systems in real-time?
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The final solution, I'm afraid, will be a splitting of our country. The Blue states can go be a Democratic-Socialist panacea, and the Red States can be a Democratic-Republic based on our original Constitution.
I don't think a split is out of the question, but I don't see it as left vs. right, rather, I see it as individualist vs. collectivist (something akin to "Atlas Shrugged" where the individualist producers consciously decide to stop contributing to collectivist society.
That, of course, would be a shame, as individualist producers will generally endeavor to improve things around them (including helping others around them to learn to become successful).
It would be shame, but it's certainly not unexpected (in my estimation, at least).
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That's my take. If you can find common ground between Milton Friendman and JM Keynes; between Nancy Pelosi and Newt Gingrich; between Rupert Murdoch and George Soros be my guess. I don't think it is possible.
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I'm not so interested in reconciling the views of the above as I am in getting the attention of people who have no idea who these people are.