Why do the prices of TVs keep dropping?

Prices in free markets aren't determined by finding out the ideal amount the consumers will pay.

If I thought 100 million people where getting obese and insolvent from pokerz...you sure as hell better believe I would be for banning it.


Its called pragmatism.

If you do it for $22k, I'll do it for $21.5k. Anyone else bidding?

why do you care if other people are getting fat?

It can't be for their own good, or you would care even if it were just a few people. Why is it when it's EVERYONE then all of a sudden you care?

medical/medicaid/whatever else. good intentions, hurt people

stupid insurance mandates. probably not even good intentions, hurt people

FDA. good intentions, hurt people

AMA. good intentions, hurt people

"Certificate of Need" bull****. no idea who thought it was a good idea, hurt people.


so obviously the solution is we need more of all the above. how about before you start proposing new ideas that will solve everything, you take a quick look at all the other ideas already put into effect. look at their intentions and then look at the results.

so you're for banning junk food, cigarettes, alcohol, gatorade, non-organic peanut butter, skateboards, video games, and other things?

i can't wait to live in zaxx19's cocoon!

Not skateboards. No fatsos on skateboards.

lol try to take away any old person's medicare. Go on, I dare you.

wow, is that really your argument?

try to take away someone's unemployment checks, i dare you.
try to take away a thief's stolen goods, i dare you.
try to take away ....


tell an old person that his prescription should be $1 instead of $100, i dare you
tell an old person that he should be getting some medication for his pain instead of letting it go through the umpteenth test by the FDA, i dare you

You just said medicare hurts people. How exactly did you mean?

ONE of the many reasons doctors and hospitals charge so much because the government gives them a guaranteed price.

Imagine if the government gave a group of people Automobilaid. Automobilaid gives businesses $200 for a smog check, $200 for an oil change, and $1,000 for a tune-up. What do you think the smog check centers, oil change centers, and auto-repair centers are going to charge non-Automobilaid customers? Is it worth their time and effort to do those things for $20-100? No. Now everybody is forced to pay a higher price.

They spend whatever amount was agreed to in writing between the customer and the company.

Awesome France's economy ftw!

Yeah except that as a cash medical customer I now pay 4x the discounted price the insurance companies demand. I'm struggling to see how government has played a huge role in that equation. But I'm sure you'll tell me in vague terms.

Government plays no role in why surgeries cost 50k here when they are 1k elsewhere in the world... it's all due to the boogieman. **** the boogieman, i hate him soooo much.

WTF, do you not realize that pretty much every other government in the industrialized world sets the prices for medical procedures, devices and drugs?

Wait. How many federal laws are there affecting healthcare currently?

So how will it be different this go round?

Or is avoiding the questions easier?

I have another one. Why do think that hard working, creative, ambitious and intelligent American people are not any more capable than the governments of Japan and Canada? My evaluation of history is that we have done substantially better in the long terms than the two countries you cite when we are not saddled with government interference and that those two countries would not be anywhere near what they are today but for the country and principles you seem to have such disdain for.

btw, who rebuilt Japan after WWII and who relies everyday on the US to protect North America so that it can spend on inefficient social programs?

Ayn Rand is dead, so she probably doesn't know much today, but it makes for a nice strawman when avoiding an issue.

Insurance companies makes prescription drug prices higher. 80% of all prescription drugs sold are brand names. Members pay $5 per month for generics and $10 per month for brand names. They are insulated from true costs.
With no health insurance, it would be over $100 for brand names and under $25 for generics. Many more patients would choose generics under the free market. Prescription drug prices would come down more quickly.

You know this is bs, right? Many insurance plans will not cover brand names or make the co-pay 40 vs 10 unless the doctor specifically prescribes the brand name.

You have a big fail in logic here. Do you see it?

How can anyone honestly argue against the market driven approach? Kidpokerher, I would love to debate you on anything to do with healthcare btw. My knowledge of the system will make you spin in circles. You need to understand how much you do not understand? LOL

Is that a question you really need to ask?

I want to read this debate...