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Here we go again... (unarmed black teen shot by cop): Shootings in LA and MN Here we go again... (unarmed black teen shot by cop): Shootings in LA and MN

05-01-2015 , 11:24 AM
Damn, his family is gonna have a nice life$tyle for sure after this is all said and done. SUCCESS!
05-01-2015 , 11:25 AM
And the people of Baltimore (deservedly) pay for it because they didn't seem to mind having a terrible police force up until now.
05-01-2015 , 11:27 AM
http://live.baltimoresun.com/Event/L...e_in_Baltimore

Best source I found for breaking news on the case
05-01-2015 , 11:29 AM
Sun should be up for a Pulitzer for coverage of this story
05-01-2015 , 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by ikestoys
good to see them charged, conviction still seems very unlikely.
This assumes that none of the lessor charged officers make a deal in exchange for testimony.
05-01-2015 , 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by DrChesspain
This assumes that none of the lessor charged officers make a deal in exchange for testimony.
It assumes that cops don't get convicted of **** like this. What you're talking about is not relevant.
05-01-2015 , 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by DrChesspain
This assumes that none of the lessor charged officers make a deal in exchange for testimony.

Seems like there could be plenty of evidence even without that. Any accelerometer data from cell phones could be particularly illuminating.
05-01-2015 , 11:34 AM
Just listened to the State's Attorney describe the incident - I might be naive but it feels like these cops are definitely going down.
05-01-2015 , 11:37 AM
Driver charged with 2nd degree heart depraved murder, involuntary manslaughter, 2nd degree assault, manslaughter by vehicle 2 counts and misconduct in office. The other officers all charged with false imprisonment, assault, misconduct in office and some with manslaughter
05-01-2015 , 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by ikestoys
good to see them charged, conviction still seems very unlikely.
Because of racist jurors? Doesn't seem like they should have much trouble proving anything.

It also looks like they are charging false imprisonment against some of the officers. I guess this is tied to them arresting him for no reason? That's obviously less of a big deal than the homicide charges, but pretty significant too.
05-01-2015 , 11:41 AM
The Baltimore police union has done their own investigation and determined that the cops were heroes:

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BREAKING: Police union: 6 officers aren't responsible for Freddie Gray's death, were diligent in case.
05-01-2015 , 11:43 AM
Most dangerous gang in the US...police union or MS-13?

Police union kills by far the most people, and keeps many murderers on the streets, but they also do some good stuff.

They don't usually decapitate their victims, which is another positive.

Tough call.
05-01-2015 , 11:44 AM
There's more than one cop. They can always offer one a deal to get a better conviction on the others on the wild chance that they treat cops like everyone else.
05-01-2015 , 11:46 AM
Change of venue seems likely but not sure. We'll see what the trial brings out in evidence. #justicesystemworking
05-01-2015 , 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Double Eagle
Just listened to the State's Attorney describe the incident - I might be naive but it feels like these cops are definitely going down.
Sure looks like the first case where the presumption of cop innocence is not on the table.

And she is a badass.
05-01-2015 , 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Wakko
And the people of Baltimore (deservedly) pay for it because they didn't seem to mind having a terrible police force up until now.
How about the scumbag cops that committed murder pay for it out of their own pockets. Take everything they own, leave the taxpayers out of it.
05-01-2015 , 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by domer2
The Baltimore police union has done their own investigation and determined that the cops were heroes:


Oh, and they've also asked the Prosecutor to recuse herself from the case, so they're really going hard to protect these cops and make it look like they are being railroaded...

I'd be willing to give cops the benefit of the doubt in murky situations so much more often if the wouldn't circle the wagons quite so aggressively in these spots.
05-01-2015 , 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by PigeonPatrol
Sure looks like the first case where the presumption of cop innocence is not on the table.

And she is a badass.
I haven't been following developments that closely, but by the time she got done reading the complaint I was literally shaking with rage. Even more enraging is that this same scene almost certainly plays out with non-lethal results a hundred times a day across the country and the defenders of these cops are ironically correct when they say that they "were just doing their job" - the job that we, their employers, have asked them to do.
05-01-2015 , 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Bigoldnit
Oh, and they've also asked the Prosecutor to recuse herself from the case, so they're really going hard to protect these cops and make it look like they are being railroaded...

I'd be willing to give cops the benefit of the doubt in murky situations so much more often if the wouldn't circle the wagons quite so aggressively in these spots.

That's their job, don't see anything wrong with what they're doing
05-01-2015 , 12:03 PM
05-01-2015 , 12:05 PM
I've somehow never heard the term "depraved-heart murder" before. That's some cold sounding ****.
05-01-2015 , 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by ikestoys
It assumes that cops don't get convicted of **** like this. What you're talking about is not relevant.
I think end of 2015 will be first time that is no longer true when this case, the SC and tulsa ones get convictions
05-01-2015 , 12:07 PM
Depraved heart murder pretty good and name imo
05-01-2015 , 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by SenorKeeed
That's their job, don't see anything wrong with what they're doing
lol

they wield tremendous political clout and power in local politics, which adversely biases a whole slew of officials

in the absence of federal/state involvement, you're 100% reliant upon the police investigating themselves and local officials making a determination based on that local investigation. it's a farce. and the power of the unions is why police officers get away with murder/false arrests/deprivation of rights on a breathtaking, nationwide scale. just because you get people stepping in in the most egregious crimes doesn't absolve everything else. and the union is their bulwark that protects and insulates them from being prosecuted for crimes.
05-01-2015 , 12:11 PM
So the theory is that he was unhurt before getting into the van, and the driver rough rided him unrestrained such that his spine was damaged, and other officers then didn't offer him medical help?

Just off the cuff, seems like the driver could go down for manslaughter at worst, maybe not even that if they don't have any evidence of the rough ride. the others some sort of reckless endangerment for not offering medical help, possibly worse if they can show they were in on it.

      
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