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04-30-2015 , 08:56 AM

#1376

Trolly McTrollson

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Originally Posted by abseeker

The Washington Post has reported that Freddie and his family were involved in a successful settlement of a Lead Paint lawsuit a decade back.

Which means:

1) his brain and behavior may have been affected by lead poisoning

2) he had a motive for injuring himself (potential lawsuit money)

how 3. The cops beat the **** out of him isn't even in the realm of possibility for you. It's an amazingly narrow Overton window.

04-30-2015 , 08:57 AM

#1377

TimmayB

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Going with the old used demon strength to sever his own spine huh? Seems very plausible, should go over well.

04-30-2015 , 08:59 AM

#1378

bobman0330

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Originally Posted by abseeker

We need to see the inside of the van.

A metal protuberance could be used by a somewhat bound person to inflict damage on the neck, both front and back.

It's good to see the #NotAllFacts crowd showing some initiative and just making up the facts they need.

04-30-2015 , 09:00 AM

#1379

Huehuecoyotl

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It is slightly confused reasoning combined with insinuation. He was messed up from lead so he wasn't rational BUT he was rational enough to self injure for a potential lawsuit. And we can insinuate that he unjustly tried to injure himself because he was involved in a just lawsuit that involved legitimate damages to him?

I'm not seeing a coherent thought from abseeker

04-30-2015 , 09:08 AM

#1380

Trolly McTrollson

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Guys with childhood lead exposure rip their own spines out all the time. Gotta watch 'me like hawks.

04-30-2015 , 09:20 AM

#1381

abseeker

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I read the Wash Post and Daily Mail articles.

This man has lived his entire adult life off of the settlement money. It pays for his designer fashion accessories, it pays for drugs. His life is quite different from his neighbors who do not have this income source.

He can appreciate the value of winning money in a lawsuit/settlement, and like all of us he can see how quickly the police will be blamed for every injury to someone in custody. He may have felt this was his payday opportunity, to injure himself when out of camera range.

04-30-2015 , 09:21 AM

#1382

neg3sd

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Quote:

Originally Posted by sweep single

He punched a woman in the face and knocked her cold. I would have no problem with him getting 7 or 8 years for what he did. But he had to miss a season and get some counseling, more than enough for someone who commits a minor offense like knocking out a female.

That just shows how strong Rice is compared to the average male. Could you knock a woman(she looked like 5'8", 150 lbs) out in one punch? Afterwards she married Rice. She forgave him. Why can't society forgive him?

90% of the cops in black communities are white. Therefore cops are the enemy. These white cops can't relate to the community. There needs to be cops who grew up in the community and live in the community.

04-30-2015 , 09:25 AM

#1383

13ball

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Originally Posted by abseeker

The same thing happened with Rodney King. The cops were just trying to hit the pavement to scare him and he dove under their blows with extreme fleetness. Gotta get paid!

04-30-2015 , 09:28 AM

#1384

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Originally Posted by neg3sd

You mean like how she was blamed for the incident and had to apologize more than he did before the video came out? How are you guys always so, so bad at remembering how things happened?

Abseeker, do you know you're vile or just lack any and all awareness?

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04-30-2015 , 09:30 AM

#1385

SenorKeeed

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Originally Posted by abseeker

Jesus ****ing Christ

04-30-2015 , 09:31 AM

#1386

Anais

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Originally Posted by 13ball

The same thing happened with Rodney King. The cops were just trying to hit the pavement to scare him and he dove under their blows with extreme fleetness. Gotta get paid!

At least some people have the backbone to apologize when they get caught doing something so obvious, like that guy who jumped in front of Dick Cheney's gun to get himself shot on purpose.

04-30-2015 , 09:44 AM

#1387

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Lol, so now victim blaming includes "his family once got a payout when they were previously wronged" but apparently cops damaging his neck so he died can't have happened because it is only a once a quarter occurrence.

04-30-2015 , 09:45 AM

#1388

abseeker

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Funny how accepting this crowd is of speculation about gangs of cops beating people in vans, but not of a person running a con against the taxpayers.

We should accept neither until we have the facts.

04-30-2015 , 09:45 AM

#1389

LostOstrich

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so a guy suffers hideous fatal injuries in the back of a police van, and the likely explanations for this are:

He self harmed because of a childhood exposure to lead poisoning
He snapped his own spinal cord on some sort of metal protruderance during a bumpy drive
He threw himself around in the hope of suing the police for brutality?

04-30-2015 , 09:45 AM

#1390

[Phill]

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I guess he really was an angel with no criminal record so he obviously 80% severed his own spine and crushed his own wind pipe to shut himself up from complaining I mean get a payout.

04-30-2015 , 09:57 AM

#1391

Noze

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"****, man just gotta sever my spine and I'll be BALLLLIN for the rest of my life, yo"

04-30-2015 , 10:18 AM

#1392

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We have more witnesses that say Freddie was trying to hurt himself than we have witnesses that say a gang of cops beat him up.

But don't let that stop you from choosing the speculation that you prefer, that facts be damned.

04-30-2015 , 10:23 AM

#1393

Dyenimator

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Source. Names. Facts.

04-30-2015 , 10:27 AM

#1394

TimmayB

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At least any of us that ever wondered "hmmm maybe I am over exaggerating the problem a bit" can be assured that we weren't at all. This is surreal - they're seriously going with dude severed his own spine.

04-30-2015 , 10:30 AM

#1395

abseeker

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dyenimator

Source. Names. Facts.

read the thread

or

search in a news search engine:
Freddie hurt himself

04-30-2015 , 10:38 AM

#1396

Dyenimator

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I read the MSNBC article where FG was out cold before the other prisoner was in the van. You cite more than one witness.

04-30-2015 , 10:40 AM

#1397

Huehuecoyotl

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Quote:

Originally Posted by abseeker

Both are possible, but given the past incidents of police abuse and particularly the Baltimore police it's a bit more likely than the alternatives. So far you've offered no evidence to support that he harmed himself in order to get a pay out, other than he once was party to a lawsuit that he apparently settled for damages.

04-30-2015 , 10:47 AM

#1398

aoFrantic

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abseeker, did you even read the article you're touting? Pretty sure dude just saw a Breitbart headline and got REALLY excited.

Abseeker is right though 1>0, we have one witness saying "it sounded like he was trying to hurt himself," even though that witness was not in the vehicle at the same time, and zero witnesses saying "a gang of cops beat him up."

04-30-2015 , 10:52 AM

#1399

Trolly McTrollson

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I'm eagerly awaiting for Team No Angel to thoroughly vet this witness's character. Surely we don't want to rush to judgement until we've seen if he has scary gangsta Facebook pictures?

04-30-2015 , 10:54 AM

#1400

13ball

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Quote:

Originally Posted by abseeker

We have a leaked police report, but we also know that the police lied on the first report (saying that Gray was arrested "without force or incident") and that police did not follow procedure.

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