Shouldn't USA#1 have the GOAT genetics with all our diversity?

Damn those Germans and their Master Genes.

Spain and Greece are definitely ****ed due to UHC, not all their obviously completely FUBAR economic policies.

Lol and how do you think this super obvious point applies to Germany?

Spending on just Medicare + Medicaid is more than a lot of places per capita, so your point isn't as strong as you think.

This stupid bickering is going nowhere....

My solution is to have Congress write up 500 bills... a mix of both parties...

Put Obama on the free throw line... do not tell him what law or party each shot represents. If he makes the shot the law is passed. If he misses it's not passed.

This will ensure that no more than 10-17 Bipartisian laws will be passed every year

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Is was referring to life expectancy not cost when I said genetics. I should have been more clear. And the fattie argument is not there. The average German BMI is pretty close to the US average.

Living longer helps keep their health costs down?

loloolollllolol

Even with their governments other ineptitude's they still manage a much more cost efficient healthcare system per capita.

Uh, perfectly fine and it is exactly the point Riverman was trying to make? That UHC is a completely sensible policy goal, implemented successfully all over the world, despite the CRUSHING JOB LOSS that you're going to be clinging to for the rest o fht year.

Look upon your side and weep. Your bestest friend (non-elderly) foe of Obamacare ITT went straight up Aryan Nation(LITERALLY ARYAN)!

Kind of a shame Medicare & Medicaid are unable to negotiate prices for medications on behalf of their patients.

Also, in other countries, the countries themselves pay the salaries of the doctors and other medical personnel. Here we pay per service and basically force doctors to open their own businesses replete with administrative overhead. Not sure we could come up with a more costlier system... Oh wait. Lets do Medicare Plus.

Having the guarantee of being able to purchase a reasonably priced insurance plan with a mandated level of care is a huge relief to those of us who might want to retire before Medicare kicks in. It's not as good as Medicare kicking in at age 0, but it's a start.

OTOH, in states where Medicaid was not expanded, poor people do have to work more in order to qualify for the subsidy. That is a horrible outcome, and one that Republicans and Supremes should be ashamed of.

See above for people who should qualify for Medicaid under the original law, but do not because of the Supreme Court decision allowing states to reject the Medicaid expansion.

Good luck with that.

For some people, true, and that is fine. Someone who is really taking a second or third job and is using the extra money to buy health insurance for herself and her children deserves that subsidy, and deserves a 40-hour work week. For others, it is more the former specter of the individual market where they could be rejected for pre-existing conditions, arbitrarily dropped, or vastly overcharged that kept them working in a job that has health insurance benefit. So the old guy working at McDonald's is not the best example, but the architect who is hanging on to his job mostly for the health insurance while young grads starve doesn't really fit into a single panel cartoon.

The Daily Show nailed the response to this report.

Years ago Republican's big talking point was that health care needed to be decoupled from employment to free people up from being tied down to one specific job.

A CBO report comes out saying Obamacare will have that effect and now it's encouraging sloth.

People will be a will to spend more time with their families. This is an outrage!

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/th...the-cbo-report

Wait I thought the right was frothed up about the lack of intact families and good parenting destroying the moral fabric of america? Shouldn't they be thrilled that these people will be at home?

The primary ads here in Nebraska are nauseating. It's basically each candidate trying to hate Obamacare more than the other candidate. People love that **** here, without ever taking 5 minutes to think about why. And of course Nebraska is actively hurting our population by refusing to do the Medicaid expand, which people blame on Obamacare of course. And I have very few people outside of my friends that I can voice anything to - of course my family and gf's family and most people from back home etc are all crazy conservative.

The line between uneducated and educated is very sharp too. College education: support Obamacare. No college education: Obama socialist muslim Obamacare destroying our great christian nation. Shocking that the dumb poors have zero critical thinking ability or general self-awareness

citation needed

90% of WA exchange members purchased bronze or silver plans. Positive sign for exchange population risk.

No college education went Obama in 2012. http://www.cnn.com/election/2012/results/race/president

So did "graduated college

Okay now do middle-class suburban mostly white no college education in NE, like I'm assuming most of Shu's friends and family fall into.

(No offense Shu, if you run with the Omaha Crips or something)

Midwesterners are generally salt of the people who mean what they say and follow through on what they say they're going to do. The downside of that is they have a real hard time telling slick propaganda from actual news. East and west coasters have better radar for hucksters from my observation.

Can I get some cliffs on why so many states refused to expand medicaid? Tell me the cliffs are more than "lol repubicans ldo."

Nope.