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12-12-2008 , 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by JayTeeMe
So he wants to be the guy who took away the disabled kid's pony because it's the standard play?
Pot committed, imo.
12-12-2008 , 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by JayTeeMe
So he wants to be the guy who took away the disabled kid's pony because it's the standard play?
You are apply rational anaylsis to the actions of humans.

Also he was probably an acist or libertarian so having a disabled kid made happy by a pony living right next door when the pony could have been made into soap for a profit thus raising the living standards of all of mankind was probably intolerable to him.
12-12-2008 , 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by The once and future king
You are apply rational anaylsis to the actions of humans.

Also he was probably an acist or libertarian so having a disabled kid made happy by a pony living right next door when the pony could have been made into soap for a profit thus raising the living standards of all of mankind was probably intolerable to him.
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12-12-2008 , 06:49 PM
lol ponyaments
12-13-2008 , 12:16 AM
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Originally Posted by The once and future king
BTW ACists and Libratarians are against this because they are 120% for a dog eat dog society in which only the fittest survive and human mercy and compassion is a potential catastrophic profit reducing weakness.

And compassionate statists are in favor of this because they are compassionate?
12-13-2008 , 06:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Nielsio
And compassionate statists are in favor of this because they are compassionate?
Statists want a pony for everyone LDO.
12-13-2008 , 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by The once and future king
Statists want a pony for everyone LDO.
At first I was like , but then I was like .
12-13-2008 , 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Godfather80
At first I was like , but then I was like .
That is the goal of the "Pony in every garage" initiative.
12-13-2008 , 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by The once and future king
You are apply rational anaylsis to the actions of humans.
My favorite part about this line is how you use it to justify the "He's a neighbor and neighbors are jerks, that's why he's complaining for no reason." line of thinking.
12-13-2008 , 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by The once and future king
Just because your neighbor has a pony =! I will smell pony ****.

Also 2nd post deadly serious imo especially in a thread about pony ****.

I dont live next to the guy but have considerable equestrian experience. Pony **** just does not smell that bad or that potently. So to the Judge the objection would have sounded as contrived as it does to me.

Also You are just trying to find reasons to stop a crippled kid getting a pony.
Agree - fwiw I have a property that backs onto to a smallish field that houses 3 ponies (well, 2x pony + 1x donkey). My kitchen /diner, is less than 20 feet from the field, sunroom about 10 feet. I have NEVER noticed any **** smell, even in the height of summer.

Neighbour is a douche imo.
12-13-2008 , 10:18 PM
Smell is probably from the handicapped three year old ****ting himself and it ain't going away. Let the pony stay imo.
12-13-2008 , 11:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Gin 'n Tonic
Agree - fwiw I have a property that backs onto to a smallish field that houses 3 ponies (well, 2x pony + 1x donkey). My kitchen /diner, is less than 20 feet from the field, sunroom about 10 feet. I have NEVER noticed any **** smell, even in the height of summer.

Neighbour is a douche imo.
Thinly veiled brag imo.
12-14-2008 , 12:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Gin 'n Tonic
Agree - fwiw I have a property that backs onto to a smallish field that houses 3 ponies (well, 2x pony + 1x donkey). My kitchen /diner, is less than 20 feet from the field, sunroom about 10 feet. I have NEVER noticed any **** smell, even in the height of summer.

Neighbour is a douche imo.
wow, you're often downwind, good for you. How would the neighbor know to complain about an offensive smell, unless the pony was doing something offensive? Better yet - what is the motive for the neighbor to be known as the guy who made it so the poor crippled kid couldn't have his ****ing pony anymore?
12-14-2008 , 07:06 AM
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How would the neighbor know to complain about an offensive smell, unless the pony was doing something offensive? Better yet - what is the motive for the neighbor to be known as the guy who made it so the poor crippled kid couldn't have his ****ing pony anymore?
Seriously, the naivety of this post is staggering.

People are jerks all the time with no apparent reasonable motive. If they were not, then words like jerk or douche wouldnt even exist.

Why would anyone reasonably act like a jerk?
12-14-2008 , 07:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Taso
wow, you're often downwind, good for you. How would the neighbor know to complain about an offensive smell, unless the pony was doing something offensive? Better yet - what is the motive for the neighbor to be known as the guy who made it so the poor crippled kid couldn't have his ****ing pony anymore?
I'm confused. Why are the libertarians now all of a sudden in favor of neighbors being able to tell property owners how to run their property? Because of a smell (alleged smell)? And you guys are the same folks who think the government or others have no right to tell you how to conduct affairs on your own property, including the smelly activities of smoking, doing a bonfire, eating Indian food, hosting a barbecue, having a dog that craps, or running a vinyl factory.

Seems to me that libertarians are pouncing on another opportunity to prove hmkpoker right.

Lastly, I am extremely jaded with libertarians in general. I have met a lot online, and last year I met a lot in person, and I will say this: they are ****ing douche bags. The vast majority of libertarians that I have met have been miserable, disagreeable, snarky, selfish little jerk-offs who exude an overwhelming aura of negativity. It's no wonder we can't win people over to our side; we do nothing inspiring and attack everybody who doesn't agree with us. ~~ from the Hmkpoker (an ACist) Farewell Address
12-14-2008 , 07:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Kaj
I'm confused. Why are the libertarians now all of a sudden in favor of neighbors being able to tell property owners how to run their property? Because of a smell (alleged smell)? And you guys are the same folks who think the government or others have no right to tell you how to conduct affairs on your own property, including the smelly activities of smoking, doing a bonfire, eating Indian food, hosting a barbecue, having a dog that craps, or running a vinyl factory.
Try reading the thread, perhaps, and the wisdom shall come to you.

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Originally Posted by Taso
i think most libertarians, including AC-ists, I think, believe that you have the right to do whatever you want so long as you aren't hurting someone else. Property rights INDEED. I have no right to damage someone else's property with what I'm doing on my property - it's their property, they should expect it to not be damaged.
In case its not clear enough, damages to one's property certainly include polluting the air.

If you cannot see the difference between the amazing smell of a steak on the grill and HORSE **** then I must inquire as to when your nose was cut off, my good sir.

If you'd continue reading the thread, you'd find another reason at least THIS libertarian does not approve of the pony-favoring government,

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yooo dogs, I'm a libertarian..That doesn't mean I don't believe in laws imo? I hate zoning laws, but I don't think we should only apply them to some people, and not apply them to everyone. Wheres snowden at - I call that discrimination imo. The town should repeal all their zoning laws, yes, but until they do, they should be applied equally.

And even sans-zoning laws, this is still ****ed up because the guys CHICKEN SALAD SMELLS LIKE HORSE **** WHENEVER HE WANTS TO EAT IT IMOOOOOO
While I do enjoy quoting myself, I heartily suggest at least a quick glance at the posts you intend to label as hypocritical for next time.
12-14-2008 , 07:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Kaj
I'm confused. Why are the libertarians now all of a sudden in favor of neighbors being able to tell property owners how to run their property? Because of a smell (alleged smell)? And you guys are the same folks who think the government or others have no right to tell you how to conduct affairs on your own property, including the smelly activities of smoking, doing a bonfire, eating Indian food, hosting a barbecue, having a dog that craps, or running a vinyl factory.

There's nothing to be confused about. If property owner A does things that hurt the property of owner B, then that's wrong. I'm sure you would agree that setting fire to your neighbor's house would be wrong. When a bad smell consistently comes over to your property, and that smell didn't exist during the time of original purchase, then that is a form of aggression.

Now, nobody in this thread is actually aware of the exact smell that is happening in the case example. We can however see that in principle the neighbor might have a case.

What I was alluding to in my very first response to this thread is the complete absence of any moral or legal inquiry into the case, and particularly not from the ruling body. So it's nothing more than a "think of the children imo" article, which has become the standard for reporting.
12-14-2008 , 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by The once and future king
Seriously, the naivety of this post is staggering.

People are jerks all the time with no apparent reasonable motive. If they were not, then words like jerk or douche wouldnt even exist.

Why would anyone reasonably act like a jerk?
What?
12-14-2008 , 06:17 PM
once and future king - seriously, no one would ever just make up this smell. No one would go "hey, I want to be the guy that is known around town as the evil bastard who took the kids pony away' for no reason. Please, PLEASE get real?
12-14-2008 , 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Taso
once and future king - seriously, no one would ever just make up this smell. No one would go "hey, I want to be the guy that is known around town as the evil bastard who took the kids pony away' for no reason. Please, PLEASE get real?
Well, did the neighbor do so publicly?
12-14-2008 , 06:25 PM
Did he do what, publicly? That's the reason this whole thing came about, the neighbor was like 'wow, it smells like POOP"
12-14-2008 , 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Taso
Did he do what, publicly? That's the reason this whole thing came about, the neighbor was like 'wow, it smells like POOP"
Yeah, but did he do so openly or was it an anonymous call? More specifically, did the neighbor show up at the meeting/hearing where it was decided not to enforce the zoning in this instance?
12-14-2008 , 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Taso
once and future king - seriously, no one would ever just make up this smell. No one would go "hey, I want to be the guy that is known around town as the evil bastard who took the kids pony away' for no reason. Please, PLEASE get real?
You dont know guys in your town who are know for being unreasonable dixxheads?

Seriously, he probably just wanted the pony gone, thought he was within his rights and went for it. He probably didnt even get as far as computing the effect on his reputation or didnt give a **** anyway. There are tons of people like this.

Last edited by ElliotR; 12-14-2008 at 07:30 PM. Reason: Taso's age is not relevant
12-14-2008 , 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Taso
If you cannot see the difference between the amazing smell of a steak on the grill and HORSE **** then I must inquire as to when your nose was cut off, my good sir.
So just to be clear, if I don't like the smell of cigarette smoke or camp fires, then you're all in favor of banning these activities in your back yard?

Or banning you from cooking Indian food, for that matter.
12-14-2008 , 08:04 PM
Do you not see the difference between the smell from a camp fire and the smell of HORSE ****????

Seriously man, how do you not understand that an individual should have a fairly reasonable expectation, in the suburbs especially, to not smell horse ****?

      
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