Really?

Are there great herds of unicorns roaming the northern plains crapping out golden eggs that the provincial and federal governments harvest and sell to pay for the health care? :-)

Probably not, ehh?

I'm guessing instead of paying private insurance, you pay provincial and federal income taxes, corporate business taxes, taxes on goods and services and other sales taxes to pay for your "free' health care.

I'm not knocking it, I just giggle when my friends tell me about their "free" health care.

I actually prefer a single payer sort of system that spreads the risk among the widest possible group. Isn't that the idea of insurance?

Just out of curiosity, if I am visiting, say, Toronto and I have appendicitis and need surgery , I'm guessing I am presented with a bill after my stay?

Edit: may be wrong here, need to do some boning up of my own.

Its true that I cited what I thought the stat was. What Jaaash fails to get (well, among many things) is that changing it from 20 to 10% changes absolutely nothing. 10% of all Americans is a significant number in the 10s of millions but good ol Jaaash is like, "Well I have an ID and all my buddies do so its not really an issue! Dur!"

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Good retort. Roughly 30-60 million without Id and your response is "But this guy said his numbers wrong!"

Well played

Why? :-)

So I should just book a tour across the border than next time I feel I'm gonna throw a clot?

Never mind him trying to deflect with percentage nits, the entire argument about whether or not everybody can or should have ID is a constant goal post shift ITT.

Not one single person has ever been able to put forth even half an argument to defend the GOP's actual vote suppression activities. Protesting that getting ID is easy is tacit admission that the primary argument has been decisively lost.

Not at all. The left has laid out the argument repeatedly that it's a painstaking process to get an ID.

Thank god the Supreme Court decided Racism is Dead and that minorities no longer require the legal protections against disenfranchisement they once enjoyed.

It's not like Georgia was one of the states who previously had extra protections for minorities thanks to the recently struck down portions of the VRA...

Oh, um.. hmmm....

So your winning argument about the OP is...?

I simply came in regarding this silly notion that IDs are difficult to get or cost money that poor people can't afford to pay for one. As for the OP, yes, it's perfectly reasonable to ask someone to prove who they say they are in order to get that persons voting ballot and cast a vote.

http://www.nationalreview.com/articl...ting-john-fund

That's not what the OP is about. Maybe try reading the thread title? It's in this very post, in bold, at the top.

So, you don't actually understand what the laws on the books were prior to these laws. Big shocker.

IDs are really easy to get if you have all the right forms of other ID first and they are quite affordable if you can afford them including the cost of time which is obviously >0. The point is lots of people cant do the first for instance losing birth records over the previous three quarters of a century.

As for the second poll taxes are expressly illegal in federal elections as written in the constitution (which Republicans constantly talk about but seem fine with ignoring when convenient), the argument that it is only $X, which for the record is HIGHER than the outlawed poll taxes were, misses the point entirely.

Welcome to like 100 posts ago negs. Still nothing that GOP voter id laws address.

http://www.rgj.com/story/news/politi...nate/18131029/

Because hey, if you can't find evidence of fraud, just ****ing make some up! National Review will print that **** in a New York second!

What point do you think you're making? That premiums are built into our tax burden? Well duh. But say for example I contract diabetes, or cancer or heart disease, or all three. Think my taxes go up at some point? That's a no. Think I have to pay some 'max out of pocket' cost if I need some monster surgery or cancer treatments? Also no. Oh but what if I choose to have like 9 kids, think I pay more then, seeing as how they'll need a bunch of health care too growing up? Nope (in fact I pay less).

Now, how about those things in usa#1?

Again, what point do you think you're making? That non-Canadians have to pay for health care? Of course they do. So what?

The funny part is, for all the points you think you're making, the major point you seem to be missing is that while here the government pays for everyone's health care, in the USA where it does NOT do that, the government is in fact paying MORE on health care than Canada's (even adjusted for population).

Now, how do you explain that?

Explain it in the Obamacare thread.

We treat people well. the shock, the horror! It's why people with conditions that don't have another reason to visit are routinely turned away though, it's one of the main things they check for at our border. They don't want foreign people to be an economic drain on our healthcare system because of the costs it curtailed elsewhere. This has been a big issue for a while.

Seriously all these voter ID threads are making a convincing case that there must be widespread voter fraud among Republicans, because it's pretty difficult to believe anyone who is actually registered to vote would post like np and JAAASH.

The difference between buying a beer at your local bar and voting has been effectively explained several times in this thread.

Also, lol, anyone shocked by the middle class white guy who doesn't think voting is any more special than buying a beer at the bar?

Seriously, repeated stupid **** posting like this should be bannable.