The arguments our new Republican friends are making in favor of these ID laws are of course indistinguishable from arguments people would make for poll taxes 50 years ago, but unfortunately they aren't bright enough to see that.

No amount of citation will prove relevant to you, we all know. Its documented & you can seek it out at your leisure, whether you choose to believe or not.

Just look it up, duh.

It is documented in the OP, in fact.

Republicans on voter fraud:

The burden of proof is on you here. Those are forum rules.

These are the people for small government, folks. Create unnecessary policy regimes to combat nonexistent problems birthed from paranoid fear. Nice work all around.

So why does anyone need to provide proof of self ... ever? Why does the very govt that doesn't deem voter identification necessary, require it when registering for food stamps? For Medicaid? For WIC?

Somethings up alright...

Proof of self is required for voting, even in California and other states that haven't passed new vote restrictions.

That rule absolutely fits this thread. Lol. See inserted video stream from earlier for a brief snippet in Florida. That would require effort, though. Are you sure this isn't an insignificant burden?

What's up is you have been intentionally misled with a pack of lies by people who know exactly how to exploit your baseless fears for partisan political gain at the expense of those already deprived their voice in most aspects of life. Personally, I'd be kinda mad about that, but I expect you to run back into the arms of those who deceived you like a Stockholm Syndrome victim who can only find comfort in the warm embrace of his abuser.

Response to question above? Ive heard your talking points, I've responded to your questions. Now respond to mine or move on

Its humerous to me how this who claim "fear mongering" are so quick to act the part of the bully. Keep up the good work. You do your kind proud

What exactly is your question? I've watched the uToob. None of the proposed or enacted voter ID laws would solve that problem, but it could easily be solved by county election officials doing their job correctly.

Ahh, so everyone is allowed to vote except illegals, poors, and those that lack initiative. I can understand illegals, but why the other two categories? As far as I can tell, they are still American. And by "as far as I can tell", I mean they already proved their citizenship when the registered to vote.

is this a real post

Its only a few posts above. In fact its in the very post that you ranted on about, answering nothing within the post itself. I suppose that's not one of the forum rules.

The lies that have been fed to you is that people aren't currently proving their identities when they vote, and that requiring currently valid, state-issued photo IDs are the only way to do that. That's a lie. Everyone has to verify themselves every time they vote. No one actually disagrees with verifying identity at the polls to ensure that only citizens vote and that no one votes more than once, including zikzak. It's just that these laws are unnecessary on top of the security measures that are already in place, they don't stop any fraud, and they prevent people from voting legally. Stopping legal voters is their only purpose.

Your question doesn't make sense because, despite it being pointed out several times in the past couple pages, you still don't seem to understand that it is already necessary to prove your identity to vote. I'm not sure where we go from here. We seem to be at an impasse.

Is there any chance of you taking the time to learn wtf you are talking about so we can resume the conversation?

If it's not just a ploy to suppress democratic turnout, why are Republicans also trying to stop early voting, absentee ballots, Sunday voting, and reduce polling stations?

You're being wilfully ignorant here.

Regiatering to vote doesn't necessitate proving identity. So I guess you're right, no longer discussing.

Impressive that the left are adamant that medical insurance was so broken that deregulation was not an appropriate fix but instead a government take over of the entire industry necessitated the need for Obamacare yet voting must be deregulated and remove govt interference entirely.

I enjoyed debating while it lasted. Gg

Would you say that's any more or less interesting than how small government Republicans are all about putting government fingerprints all over the voting process? Like literally, you suggested fingerprinting people to verify their identity for voting earlier in this thread!!

LOL

So you agree theres quite a disconnect? Well, that's at least progress.

The idea of substantiating voters is simply due to legal means. Its not a constitutional guarantee for any person breathing to vote or vote in multiplicity. Those who follow the laws have no issue with conforming to them for the validity of the process. I realize that its difficult for the left brain to fathom that it happens.

Limited govt does not involve govt monopoly of enterprise. Again, hard for the left to comprehend, I realize.

No, but by your own logic you're as much of a hypocrite as you accuse us of being. Maybe make sure you are being consistent before you bring that weak **** in here.

For example, just look at your above post. If you're suggesting that voter ID laws now don't violate the principle of limited government, then it's no longer the case that the left is hypocritical for opposing them, as you suggested they are just one post before. Can you make up your mind, please?

Every post you make on this subject is demonstrating a complete lack of understanding of what you're talking about. I'd take my ball home and run too, as you tried to do above, if I was called out on having such a staggering level of ignorance as you've displayed.

Hey Kegnog, I'll pose the same question I did to the mouthbreather earlier ITT. You and your buddies want to commit voter fraud and you don't need ID to vote. What's your plan? Just give them a fake name and profit?

The fact that you can't interpret the difference between capitalistic enterprise and constitutionally afforded rights that require govt intervention to maintain validity of source shows where the ignorance lies.

But please, continue to rant on. It's keeping me entertained.