Black churches shuttle voters on Sundays.

I saw the other day that voter ID laws polled well.

"Why Do Voters Back ID? Common Sense"

http://www.commentarymagazine.com/20...n-sense-fraud/

snippet from Jonathan Tobin's piece:

Lol most voters are ill-informed and have no idea why these laws are being implemented. A majority of voters are also for all kinds of stuff you don't like like raising taxes on the wealthy.

What do a majority of voters think about ending Sunday voting? What do they think about curtailing early voting or registration drives? What do they think about the fact that these laws are only being enacted by republicans in swing states? What do they think about the fact that despite most cases of organized fraud that actually were found used absentee ballots, not one of these initiatives has targeted absentee ballots (as conservatives tend to use them more)? What do they think about ALEC?


What do they think about the clip above when combined with the state of PA saying they found zero cases of voter fraud and didn't expect voter fraud to be a factor in the 2012 election?

Oh right, we don't know. Because no one ever bothered to inform them on what's really going on.

lol most voters also believe in an invisible man in the sky, we'd better base all our legislation on that belief!

Also there's a lot more than just voter ID in these laws. Decreasing early voting probably doesn't poll so good, but like every GOP dominated state did that

Let's have a $10,000 poll tax. Then only the right people will vote.

This x 10000

On last night's daily show they mentioned that in at least one of the states they were decreasing voting hours in democratic districts while keeping the longer voting hours in republican districts.

Assuming this is accurate... how can anyone defend this and why isn't there more outrage at the Republicans? This seems particularly bad even for them.

QUICK SEARCH FOUND THIS - Its Ohio

It was Ohio, and yes it was accurate. Ohio was trying to preserve extended voting hours for "military members and families" (who vote overwhelmingly GOP) and cut them short for everyone else. When Obama dared to bitch about it and insist that the hours be available to everyone, Mittens response was something along the lines of: "Why does Obama hate the military?"

But Ohio's Secretary of State (a Republican) just said that early voting hours will be uniform for everyone so apparently it's no longer an issue, for now, until they figure out some other way to supress votes.

lol I love this 'logic.' "We don't need weekend early voting 'cause people can just vote by mail!" THEN WHY THE **** HAVE EARLY VOTING AT ALL IF THAT'S THE CASE???

(FYI in case you're curious as to why these states are eliminating early voting the weekend before the election, it's to keep the black churches from bussing their congregations to the polls. Oh the horror!)

The Republican Party is a disgrace. This whole campaign is a disgrace. The failure of a single prominent R to condemn it speaks to the ethical bankruptcy reigning free among the leadership.

Well there's at least 2 of them: https://www.facebook.com/pages/Groba...54142984621301

This x1000

Rachel Maddow on the now-court-approved measure:

It should be noted that a voter-education effort is now working in Pennsylvania.

It has been contracted to a private lobbying firm run by a former director of the Pennsylvania GOP, who donates bigtime to Romney.

It's a fun game to go through the PA court opinion and replace all voter ID language with poll tax language without disturbing the congruency of the argument. My favorite part, personally, is when Judge Simpson shamelessly lifts language from a felon disenfranchisement case in order to assert that "the legislature has the power to define which electors are qualified".


Meanwhile, spent a couple of days this week talking to some apparent unqualified electors on the phone. It's 90-year-old ladies that instantly brag about not having missed a presidential election in 70 years but had no idea they needed an ID this time. They aren't just the lead plaintiffs and poster boys, there's a ****ing lot of them out there.

Is there a chance the PA Supreme Court will hear or evaluate this before the election? What happens if Mitt wins the election then SCOTUS judges all these laws unconstitutional? Nothing I guess.

The appeal from the last decision was in the news today and from what I've read, one of the groups behind it requested the court hear arguments ASAP, which would be its September 10-14 term. If they can't push it up the docket, overturning it for this election would be a lost cause.

Would be ****ing hilarious to see Corbett's second shot at scumbag electoral policy get thrown out by the court. Early on in the spring the generally right-leaning court threw out the newly gerrymandered voting districts that looked like a work fit for a modern art museum.

While it might not seem like a big deal to ask people to have an ID, the reason why these laws were passed is purely because the Republicans know that those who will be disqualified are much more likely to be Democrat. This combined with shortening voting hours... they are strongly attempting to steal this election by restricting people's ability to vote.

There should be a period of a couple of years for the laws to be implemented not a shotgun implementation.

It is ****ing scary. The combination of big business giving tons more to Republicans and Republicans trying to fix the election scares the crap out of me.

Also has anyone considered that since WS is strongly backing Republicans in 2012 that WS/The Fed may try to create a crisis to get Obama unelected? Like some kind of mini-crash/event?

Has the donating from business ever been this lopsided? These guys seem to be going all-in. Very scary imho.

Romney does not have a single issue where he beats Obama. He has no ground to stand on. I am saying this a total moderate. This election, if fair, would not be close at all.

was calibobby hacked?

This post is coherent and generally unobjectionable.

Hi all, was playing at foxwoods today when the discussion bout this came up. Someone mentioned 2+2 so i joined. For my 1st post I just want to ask the big question from today's game. Doesn't everybody need an I.D. to be out in public? I myself have been harassed by security people in vegas for being in a sporstsbook with no I.D. . So how can people reach voting age in U.S. without an I.D.?

Sports book isn't public. Voting age is 18, if you're poor and don't have a car and don't get a license at 16 what other government photo ID 'should' you have by then?

Excellent first post.

Read the first 50 posts of this thread.

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