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09-21-2011 , 08:34 AM
abolish the death penalty

life in prison with no parole always seemed like a worse punishment than the death penalty, i know there are some types who probably moderately enjoy their time in prison

surprised some guilty people who know theyre gonna get life dont ask for the death penalty, tbh
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09-21-2011 , 08:57 AM
10 hours left............
09-21-2011 , 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Chips Ahoy
lol euros.
??? Phill is right. Obama can't pardon this guy. I mean, maybe he could've like use his considerable political power to influence Georgia's clemency process, but

A) OMG conservatives would literally flip their **** if he did that to save a black dude who shot a cop. I'm talking race war in the streets.

B) That time has passed, I believe, from my skimming of the news reports the final step here was the board yesterday.
09-21-2011 , 09:45 AM
God this is depressing.
09-21-2011 , 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by 13ball
From wiki:



If it's enough evidence to send him up, fine, but given mass changes in testimony, a new trial is certainly warranted.

But LOL on the chain of custody on a bullet casing that is the only piece of physical evidence in a capital case.



You actually bolded this to support your case? I mean, why have jurors if judges can just read their minds?
I don't know much about this case but I read the wiki and unless I'm mistaken, even if the ballistics are a match all it proves is that the same gun shot the guy earlier in the night and the police officer.

Without going all defense attorney and saying this doesn't prove the same person shot the gun, didn't the gunshot victim from earlier in the night say he didn't think ole dude (forgot inmates name) shot him because he doesn't know him well enough?

Unless I misread (possible there where a lot of names in the paragraph), the bullet casings shouldn't hurt him and could possibly help him.

Or Im just wrong
09-21-2011 , 10:08 AM
Grunching....

Spoiler:
it will get pled down
09-21-2011 , 10:10 AM
What do you guys think about the polygraph test request by the defence that got denied? Considering that these things are unreliable it's basically a freeroll if he's guilty and the fact that they offered it doesn't mean anything, right?
09-21-2011 , 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by pvn
Grunching....

Spoiler:
it will get pled down
Wow that's ****in bold.
09-21-2011 , 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Brons
What do you guys think about the polygraph test request by the defence that got denied? Considering that these things are unreliable it's basically a freeroll if he's guilty and the fact that they offered it doesn't mean anything, right?
It's only a freeroll if you think he doesn't value being viewed as likely innocent by a large number of people when/if he is executed.
09-21-2011 , 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by aislephive
I really don't understand why the death penalty isn't reserved for those who have irrefutable incriminating evidence against them where there is near certainty that they are guilty. Also not sure how anybody who helped put this man to death can live with themselves.
Yeah, you can argue that the standard of guilt for an execution should be much more strict than for a normal guilty verdict:
Guilt beyond a shred of a mother****ing doubt.
09-21-2011 , 12:08 PM
less than 7 hours left..........
09-21-2011 , 12:21 PM
America . whatta **** hole
09-21-2011 , 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by cpitt398
I don't know much about this case but I read the wiki and unless I'm mistaken, even if the ballistics are a match all it proves is that the same gun shot the guy earlier in the night and the police officer.

Without going all defense attorney and saying this doesn't prove the same person shot the gun, didn't the gunshot victim from earlier in the night say he didn't think ole dude (forgot inmates name) shot him because he doesn't know him well enough?

Unless I misread (possible there where a lot of names in the paragraph), the bullet casings shouldn't hurt him and could possibly help him.

Or Im just wrong
I think the bullet casing found by the homeless guy sometime after the police had cleared the crime scene was matched to one from Davis' house. The ones you are talking about couldn't be conclusively linked even according to the prosecution's expert witness.

Still sketchy.
09-21-2011 , 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by aislephive
I really don't understand why the death penalty isn't reserved for those who have irrefutable incriminating evidence against them where there is near certainty that they are guilty. Also not sure how anybody who helped put this man to death can live with themselves.
Define the bolded sentence. Prosecutors believe they've met that criteria.

Also, be careful of 'near certainty'. Probability is a better word/term to work in.

b
09-21-2011 , 01:45 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brons
What do you guys think about the polygraph test request by the defence that got denied? Considering that these things are unreliable it's basically a freeroll if he's guilty and the fact that they offered it doesn't mean anything, right?
Polygraph should be denied given their unreliability. Too bad other things(forensics) aren't also denied on that premise. But, yes, the fact they offered it really doesn't mean any more than if the prosecutors offered it.

b
09-21-2011 , 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by 13ball
I think the bullet casing found by the homeless guy sometime after the police had cleared the crime scene was matched to one from Davis' house. The ones you are talking about couldn't be conclusively linked even according to the prosecution's expert witness.

Still sketchy.
The two bullet casings collected were fired from the same gun.

......less than 6 hours left
09-21-2011 , 01:53 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by 13ball
I think the bullet casing found by the homeless guy sometime after the police had cleared the crime scene was matched to one from Davis' house. The ones you are talking about couldn't be conclusively linked even according to the prosecution's expert witness.

Still sketchy.
Ballistics, in general, are sketchy. At this time, there is no scientific support showing probabilities in this area, among other forensic evidence(DNA is supported). Many times the expert witness presented by the prosecution has little training in the scientific method and even less resources to draw their conclusions from.

b
09-21-2011 , 02:14 PM
Blog-post here. Also includes information about what you can do to stop this. Please share, and act.
09-21-2011 , 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by freddifred
Blog-post here. Also includes information about what you can do to stop this. Please share, and act.
Not much we can do at this point.....
09-21-2011 , 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by MidyMat
Not much we can do at this point.....
Here’s what you can do:

Fax or call the Parole Board and ask them to reconsider their decision and grant Troy clemency. Fax: 404-651-8502 and 404-651-6670 (try both as they will be busy), Phone: 404-656-0693 and 404-656-5651

Fax or call the Savannah District Attorney, Larry Chisolm, and ask him to urge the local judge to vacate the execution warrant. Fax: 912-652-7328, Phone: 912-652-7308.

Call the local judge, Penny Haas Freesman, and ask her to vacate the warrant. Phone: (912) 652-7252

Call the Governor, Nathan Deal, and ask him to use his influence to encourage the board to grant clemency. Phone: 404-656-1776.

In Georgia, stand with us, saying “NOT IN MY NAME!”
a) Capitol vigil – 6pm
b) Prison vigil – 5:30pm across the street from the prison at Towaliga County Line Baptist Church (153 Short Road, Jackson). Take I-75 to Exit 201 and head toward the Hess gas station (turn left (east) off the interstate if heading south on I-75) on Barnesville-Jackson Rd. (Ga 36) and turn right past the gas station.

Amnesty appears to suggest otherwise.
09-21-2011 , 02:29 PM
By the way, does anyone know what people outside the US can do? Can we even call/fax the numbers here?
09-21-2011 , 02:29 PM
I am with the family on this one. They probably know more about this case than anyone, and they want him executed. How many years has this guy been in prison awaiting his execution? 20? That is a LONG time. I have heard interviews with both the wife and the daughter and they sound like pretty reasonable people. So I am sure if evidence showed he PROBABLY didn't do it, then they wouldn't be cheering on his execution. This does not seem to be the case though.

Problem is all you hear about is a bunch of stupid groups who say he didn't do it in the bottom of the 9th inning, yet you don't hear the suffering of the family and the kids that grew up fatherless for the past 2 decades.

A lot of you who are against the death penalty have absolutely no perspective because you probably haven't had a close relative murdered and I think at least some of you would change your tune about it if something horrible like that happened to a relative of yours. I don't have perspective either, but I am pretty sure if it was my Dad who got murdered, I would be sitting in the viewing room with my popcorn lathered in butter just waiting for that needle to go in.
09-21-2011 , 02:37 PM
We should just let the family of the victims decide who's guilty of murder imo.
09-21-2011 , 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by mike_clark
I am with the family on this one. They probably know more about this case than anyone, and they want him executed. How many years has this guy been in prison awaiting his execution? 20? That is a LONG time. I have heard interviews with both the wife and the daughter and they sound like pretty reasonable people. So I am sure if evidence showed he PROBABLY didn't do it, then they wouldn't be cheering on his execution. This does not seem to be the case though.

Problem is all you hear about is a bunch of stupid groups who say he didn't do it in the bottom of the 9th inning, yet you don't hear the suffering of the family and the kids that grew up fatherless for the past 2 decades.

A lot of you who are against the death penalty have absolutely no perspective because you probably haven't had a close relative murdered and I think at least some of you would change your tune about it if something horrible like that happened to a relative of yours. I don't have perspective either, but I am pretty sure if it was my Dad who got murdered, I would be sitting in the viewing room with my popcorn lathered in butter just waiting for that needle to go in.
**** YEAH LET'S KILL THE BASTARD SO WE FEEL BETTER AND GET REVENGE!

AMERICA! **** YEAH!

Some of us don't believe in the eye for an eye principle just like we don't believe in slavery or any other archaic, immoral philosophy.
09-21-2011 , 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by starkwired
**** YEAH LET'S KILL THE BASTARD SO WE FEEL BETTER AND GET REVENGE!

AMERICA! **** YEAH!

Some of us don't believe in the eye for an eye principle just like we don't believe in slavery or any other archaic, immoral philosophy.
" An eye for an eye and we are all blind."
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