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11-09-2012 , 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Low Key

it's like military law that you can only sex your wife, and only in missionary position

Can confirm this statement is incorrect AFAIK.

11-09-2012 , 07:55 PM

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If the guy is actually an asset for national security (and that's a big "if"), why should we give a **** if he boned someone other than his wife?

Are we really saying we're ok with making America less safe for the sake of punishing him for breaking a promise of fidelity to a woman?

It's not that we care who he's boning, it's the threat of blackmail. Anyone with a clearance gets canned for this kind of thing --it's super standard. Don't like it, then don't get a job as director of the CIA.

This is also why it was a big deal when those Secret Service guys were banging Colombian hookers.

11-09-2012 , 07:59 PM

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One of the things that the Manual for Court Martial does is to expand article 134 into various "sub-articles." One of these "sub-articles" covers the offense of adultery (Article 134, paragraph 62).

Adultery, as a military offense, is difficult to prosecute (legally) for several reasons.

There are three "Elements of Proof" for the offense of Adultery in the Military:

(1) That the accused wrongfully had sexual intercourse with a certain person;
(2) That, at the time, the accused or the other person was married to someone else; and
(3) That, under the circumstances, the conduct of the accused was to the prejudice of good order and discipline in the armed forces or was of a nature to bring discredit upon the armed forces.

11-09-2012 , 08:01 PM

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^^ Director of the CIA is not a military guy, tho.

11-09-2012 , 08:01 PM

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Petraeus biography "All-In"

Appropriate

11-09-2012 , 08:03 PM

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ITT LoKi fails to grasp the meaning of the word "and".

11-09-2012 , 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by rockfsh

Petraeus biography "All-In"

11-09-2012 , 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by DblBarrelJ

ITT LoKi fails to grasp the meaning of the word "and".

no, i read what i quoted

gave a very brief description based off what my ex-military-wife, currently my fiancee told me earlier

11-09-2012 , 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson

To be serious here for a moment, this is absolutely correct.

He isn't canned because of some arbitrary rules about infidelity and some religiously designed moral code he broke, he's canned because he's opened himself up to a situation in which he may sell out the country to protect his reputation.

11-09-2012 , 08:10 PM

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Weird tho how the CIA can cover-up the OK City bombing and the JFK assassination and **** but the director can't even cover up his own personal covert infiltrations.

11-09-2012 , 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Low Key

no, i read what i quoted

gave a very brief description based off what my ex-military-wife, currently my fiancee told me earlier

I was aware of the adultery stuff, just mocking the "missionary position" thing.

I think it's somewhat absurd for the large majority of troops.

I mean sure, I'd like for the DEVGRU teams to not have anything in their closet that can be used to compromise them, but some SSGT in an infantry unit? Don't really care, **** all the tranny hookers you want IMO.

11-09-2012 , 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson

Weird tho how the CIA can cover-up the OK City bombing and the JFK assassination and **** but the director can't even cover up his own personal covert infiltrations.

i don't think you understand how the paranoid mind works.

Example:

When it's late at night and I hear a weird noise, I always assume it's crazy, violent hobos who've broken in, killed power to the house, have night vision goggles, and are ready to slit throats with piano wire as they wait behind every corner in my house.

Why do hobos waste money on piano wire and night vision goggles? I don't ****ing know. But that's where my paranoid mind goes. Every. Time.

11-09-2012 , 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Low Key

When it's late at night and I hear a weird noise, I always assume it's crazy, violent hobos who've broken in, killed power to the house, have night vision goggles, and are ready to slit throats with piano wire as they wait behind every corner in my house.

LirvA, is that you?

11-09-2012 , 08:30 PM

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LirvA, is that you?

LirvA fears no hobo, only government agents.

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11-09-2012 , 08:34 PM

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Petraeus affair may have started in Afghanistan in which case the UCMJ would apply.

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11-09-2012 , 08:34 PM

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NBC News reporting that she is under investigation for potentially accessing Patraeus' email account. They don't expect criminal charges to be filed, but that explains the resignation.

Last edited by Double Eagle; 11-09-2012 at 08:35 PM. Reason: ****ing slow pony

11-09-2012 , 08:37 PM

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Your paranoia hobos have way better tech than mine.

Mine is a zombie looking crack addict who knocked down the door and is trying to eat my cats.

11-09-2012 , 08:40 PM

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Michael Hastings @mmhastings
"All In feels at times like we are sitting at his side in Afghanistan, reading his e-mails over his shoulder."--Ricks on Broadwell's All In

HAHAHAHAHA

11-09-2012 , 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by DblBarrelJ

I think it's somewhat absurd for the large majority of troops.

I mean sure, I'd like for the DEVGRU teams to not have anything in their closet that can be used to compromise them, but some SSGT in an infantry unit? Don't really care, **** all the tranny hookers you want IMO.

I disagree. Foreign intelligence agents love to pick up small snippets of information and piece them together. Even some grunt might know **** about deployments, security, capabilities, etc. that can help paint a big picture of what's going on.

11-09-2012 , 08:46 PM

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11-09-2012 , 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson

Well sure, but the effort that would be required to set a successful blackmail operation up would be far more time consuming and require far more effort than it's likely to return.

I guess in the end my objection is that I want to see this:

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(3) That, under the circumstances, the conduct of the accused was to the prejudice of good order and discipline in the armed forces or was of a nature to bring discredit upon the armed forces.

Strictly adhered to, and I want "bring discredit upon the armed forces" to have a deeper meaning than " cheating on your spouse is wrong. You've humiliated the Army!"

I mean I'm certainly all for this being used if it can be shown that this individual in any meaningful way compromised security, but I don't want it used for revenge cases, which I have seen.

11-09-2012 , 09:06 PM

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I'm still literally lol'ing at "All-In"

11-09-2012 , 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Dids

My RSS feed keeps having awesome videos of difference species of animals playing together. I've watched a mini big play with a great dane, and a chihuahua play with a baby tiger among others. In each case, the smaller animal was instantly able to interpret what could be aggressive behavior from the other as "play".

Yet some humans think "black guy in a hoodie" is a reason enough to start going for the guns.

Be more like cats, *******s.

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