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04-14-2008 , 01:32 AM

#26

zer0

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is this as good as it gets? the post essentially says "democratic candidates are bad". who cares if they'd be better than gwb, that isnt the point as they won't be running against him. for all the **** gwb gets/has gotten, i would sure as hell hope they'd be "better" than him.

but, if these democrats are so good, why are they both running neck and neck with mccain, when every generic dem vs. rep poll has a 10+ pt edge for the democrats? the "strength" of these candidates seems like a chris mathews/james carville pipe dream.

04-14-2008 , 01:33 AM

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JohnWilkes

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Originally Posted by jah7_fsu1

Are you ******ed? I was "trying" to understand the bridge you were making with your initial point .

Why have you put trying in quotes?

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Originally Posted by jah7_fsu1

I shouldn't try to figure out what people who believe 1000 Gore lies think huh?

You cannot think that I believe Gore. So what is the above referring to?

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Originally Posted by jah7_fsu1

Back to your regularly scheduled Dem bashing...

If you are assuming that bashing Gore is the same as bashing Dem, the assumption is false.

04-14-2008 , 01:35 AM

#28

jah7_fsu1

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Why have you put trying in quotes?

OMG...are you serious?

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You cannot think that I believe Gore. So what is the above referring to?

We know you don't believe Gore. Your lies and disbeliefs about him have been noted and then debunked.

04-14-2008 , 01:36 AM

#29

JohnWilkes

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Originally Posted by zer0

Great question.
Esp. when you realize few Rep are in love with McCain.

04-14-2008 , 01:41 AM

#30

JohnWilkes

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Originally Posted by jah7_fsu1

OMG...are you serious?

Yes. Who are you quoting?

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Originally Posted by jah7_fsu1

We know you don't believe Gore.

Agreed. I was not the one who believe 1,000 Gore's lies. Who were you refering to?

04-14-2008 , 01:48 AM

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dmisfh1

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You know, the older I get the more I believe that the form of democracy we have in this country just doesn't work. Sure, that could me due to my age, but I find it disconcerting that as more time passes, less is accomplished in this 2-party, President/Congress stalemate type of system. I've actually been looking more into the Parliamentary system of democracy (ie: England) and wonder whether that would work better than what we currently have in place.

04-14-2008 , 02:01 AM

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jah7_fsu1

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Originally Posted by JohnWilkes

Yes. Who are you quoting?

Agreed. I was not the one who believe 1,000 Gore's lies. Who were you refering to?

Wow..on the quoting...nevermind sir.

Also it wasn't quite 1,000...

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Originally Posted by JohnWilkes

Many people, including many college students , consider Gore a nut case.
Look at his record of false claims, discovered Love Canal, invented the internet, finished Divinity school, opposes Tobacco companies, grew up in Tennessee , etc., etc. All lies.

You can take seriously someone who lies about where they grew up. Many of us never will.

04-14-2008 , 02:04 AM

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JohnWilkes

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Originally Posted by dmisfh1

Well, the Prime Minister and parliament majority will be of the same party.
If and only if there is a majority.

But look at France in the 50's, Italy since WWII.
Worse yet Gemany in 30's. If you lack a parliamentary majority, you can get ten prime minister in one year or a dicator claiming to restore order.

04-14-2008 , 02:07 AM

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JohnWilkes

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Originally Posted by jah7_fsu1

Also it wasn't quite 1,000...

Whatever the number, you referred to someone who believed them. We agreed that it was not me. Who were you referring to ?

04-14-2008 , 02:11 AM

#35

jah7_fsu1

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***You are now ignoring this user.***

That's better.

04-14-2008 , 02:26 AM

#36

justin

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But look at France in the 50's, Italy since WWII.
Worse yet Gemany in 30's. If you lack a parliamentary majority, you can get ten prime minister in one year or a dicator claiming to restore order.

This is a purely scare tactic defense of FTP instead of a critical analysis of the pros and cons of MPS. Your supposed to say that FPTP politicians are more accountable and act faster,(then again even these premises are very questionable). Gl trying to find other strengths of FPTP over multi-party.

04-14-2008 , 02:34 AM

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SenorKeeed

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Originally Posted by Big Bend

Actually as more people become truly horrified with the two Dem choices, since they both suck so bad, then McCain starts to look pretty good by comparison. Sure the rabid left will try to demonize him too but I think most of middle america will think he's the much safer choice come November.

Yeah but he's only like 5'6". Hillary's taller than he is.

04-14-2008 , 03:28 AM

#38

Willard

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Originally Posted by zer0

Because its April...the polls are meaningless unless they showed one side with like a 40-50 point lead. Also people have grown tired of the whole Obama/Hillary sideshow---they have become basically JLow/BAffleck.

04-14-2008 , 10:55 AM

#39

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Obama, who hates America...

If you're going to start off with something that's simply not true, why not head downhill from there?

04-14-2008 , 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by canis582

How many people know McCain left his crippled wife for a $100 million heiress?

Apparently you aren't allowed to get divorced if your wife has ever been injured. They are on friendly terms, wtf do I care?

04-14-2008 , 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by dmisfh1

The fact that less is accomplished is exactly why I think our system is better.

04-14-2008 , 11:17 AM

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ErikTheDread

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They are on friendly terms

How can they be on friendly terms? She's dead Jim.

04-14-2008 , 11:24 AM

#43

AquaSwing

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His daddy is a terrible neighbor.

04-14-2008 , 11:51 AM

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TomCollins

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Originally Posted by ErikTheDread

How can they be on friendly terms? She's dead Jim.

Is she dead? I saw no information stating this. Even if she is dead, then correct my statement to "they were on friendly terms".

If you can't trade in a trophy wife when they get rusty, why bother getting one in the first place?

04-14-2008 , 12:13 PM

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ErikTheDread

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Hmmmm. Maybe I spoke too soon. I thought I'd read somewhere that she had passed away but I just did a bit of googling and can't find anything to support that.

04-14-2008 , 12:40 PM

#46

C-Dog

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Originally Posted by canis582

How many people know McCain left his crippled wife for a $100 million heiress?

Most of us would totally leave our crippled wife for 100 million dollars. Don't be hating.

04-14-2008 , 02:23 PM

#47

obsidian

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Originally Posted by TomCollins

Apparently you aren't allowed to get divorced if your wife has ever been injured. They are on friendly terms, wtf do I care?

And then marrying someone else with millions and 20 years younger than you.

04-14-2008 , 02:30 PM

#48

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Originally Posted by obsidian

And then marrying someone else with millions and 20 years younger than you.

So, he's pretty much living the dream? Drop the cripple, marry the hot piece of tail with millions? Spreading this story will probably get him more votes

04-14-2008 , 02:32 PM

#49

jah7_fsu1

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Originally Posted by MuresanForMVP

So, he's pretty much living the dream? Drop the cripple, marry the hot piece of tail with millions? Spreading this story will probably get him more votes

Did McCain's current wife use to be hot? She looks like Satan now...tell me she isn't the scariest looking female in the history of the world with a straight face.

04-14-2008 , 02:43 PM

#50

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Originally Posted by jah7_fsu1

Did McCain's current wife use to be hot? She looks like Satan now...tell me she isn't the scariest looking female in the history of the world with a straight face.

Yea she is kinda scary lookin. Not as scary as a cripple though! The crip was a former model though, before she got into a big car crash.

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