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11-20-2015 , 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by PFunkaliscious
proving again how dumb, vindictive, and completely out of touch she is.

over/under on how many press conferences she has as POTUS before she kicks a reporter out for a question that makes her look bad.
I don't understand how this comment follows from the video that it's quoting... a little help?
11-20-2015 , 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by PFunkaliscious
lol. why are you so mad? Everybody knows she is already going to win. I accepted that fact when she gave her infamous, "Please tell me when I need to invade Iran speech" at the Brookings Institute a couple of months ago.

But tell me this, why are you so excited that she is going to win? She is a straight up neo-con. Doesn't it make you mad that she is tricking progressives into electing her and then turning around and shoving neo-con policy straight up your ass? She is betraying you in the worst way, and you are patting her on the back all the way to the throne. It's hilarious. I suppose you deserve what you ask for.
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Originally Posted by adios
Well I still don't think Trump will be the Repub candidate but if he is he will lose. Rubio I am guessing. If it is Rubio vs. Hillary anyone leaning toward Rubio?
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Originally Posted by +rep_lol
nope
A caveat, I would lean toward Uncle Joe over Rubio. I think Uncle Joe would be competent at getting bills through Congress, more so than Rubio.

With that stated, why do you prefer Hillary over Rubio? I'll hazard a guess that since he's a Repub that automatically eliminates him as a candidate you'd consider voting for. That's ok, I'm not settin a trap or anything like that. If I am wrong what Repub do you think would stand a good chance of governing well as POTUS?
11-20-2015 , 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by PFunkaliscious
lol. why are you so mad? Everybody knows she is already going to win. I accepted that fact when she gave her infamous, "Please tell me when I need to invade Iran speech" at the Brookings Institute a couple of months ago.

But tell me this, why are you so excited that she is going to win? She is a straight up neo-con. Doesn't it make you mad that she is tricking progressives into electing her and then turning around and shoving neo-con policy straight up your ass? She is betraying you in the worst way, and you are patting her on the back all the way to the throne. It's hilarious. I suppose you deserve what you ask for.
We're asking for something better than Trump, Carson, or Cruz. The throne will look a lot better with her on it than it would with inexperienced war mongers who hate everyone that isn't a conservative Christian male.
11-20-2015 , 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by adios
Well I still don't think Trump will be the Repub candidate but if he is he will lose. Rubio I am guessing. If it is Rubio vs. Hillary anyone leaning toward Rubio?
Here? Probably not, maybe a couple of people. Nationwide? I'm sure plenty would be. Such a matchup would be pretty close IMO
11-20-2015 , 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by 2OutsNoProb
Here? Probably not, maybe a couple of people. Nationwide? I'm sure plenty would be. Such a matchup would be pretty close IMO
Ok regarding this thread/this forum I have my doubts that anyone who prefers Hillary to Rubio would prefer any Repub to Hillary. Is that a fair assessment in your view?
11-20-2015 , 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by adios
A caveat, I would lean toward Uncle Joe over Rubio. I think Uncle Joe would be competent at getting bills through Congress, more so than Rubio.

With that stated, why do you prefer Hillary over Rubio? I'll hazard a guess that since he's a Repub that automatically eliminates him as a candidate you'd consider voting for. That's ok, I'm not settin a trap or anything like that. If I am wrong what Repub do you think would stand a good chance of governing well as POTUS?
because he's a total ******* with a slew of policy positions that i disagree with, mostly regarding the economy, foreign policy, immigration, women's rights, social programs/funding, and the fact that a republican president + republican congress in this day and age would probably mean gg america possibly gg world
11-20-2015 , 07:08 PM
lol are you really gonna masquerade around itt like there's no difference between hillary and the clowns that the republican party has trotted out on stage?
11-20-2015 , 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by adios
Ok regarding this thread/this forum I have my doubts that anyone who prefers Hillary to Rubio would prefer any Repub to Hillary. Is that a fair assessment in your view?
I imagine most of the people here would not want any of the current Republican field over Hillary, correct. This is probably true of most liberals/Democrats.

I personally on this site many times have stated that I would support George Pataki for President, who is by far the most moderate and socially reasonable of the group, not to mention the least insane and untarnished by scandal or ridiculously offensive comments. The fact that I as a liberal Dem feel this way probably perfectly explains why he's polled at 0.8% the entire time.

This is also admittedly a cop-out, as he's not even remotely close to a real Republican, but I would support Michael Bloomberg, who was in office twice as an R, once as an Independent, if he ran on a GOP ticket. However, this could not happen, since his policies would have zero national right-wing support.
11-20-2015 , 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by +rep_lol
because he's a total ******* with a slew of policy positions that i disagree with, mostly regarding the economy, foreign policy, immigration, women's rights, social programs/funding, and the fact that a republican president + republican congress in this day and age would probably mean gg america possibly gg world
On-point, 100%.

As someone, male, who previously took advantage of the freedoms allowed by Roe v. Wade with a partner years ago, my biggest opposition to Rubio would be his likely push to overturn it. The option should be there.
11-20-2015 , 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by +rep_lol
because he's a total ******* with a slew of policy positions that i disagree with, mostly regarding the economy, foreign policy, immigration, women's rights, social programs/funding, and the fact that a republican president + republican congress in this day and age would probably mean gg america possibly gg world
Well let's start with economic policy how are Rubio's proposed economic policies different from what Hillary is proposing? As far as I can tell Hillary is a strong advocate of free enterprise and certainly a strong advocate for Wall Street.
11-20-2015 , 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by 2OutsNoProb
I imagine most of the people here would not want any of the current Republican field over Hillary, correct. This is probably true of most liberals/Democrats.

I personally on this site many times have stated that I would support George Pataki for President, who is by far the most moderate and socially reasonable of the group, not to mention the least insane and untarnished by scandal or ridiculously offensive comments. The fact that I as a liberal Dem feel this way probably perfectly explains why he's polled at 0.8% the entire time.

This is also admittedly a cop-out, as he's not even remotely close to a real Republican, but I would support Michael Bloomberg, who was in office twice as an R, once as an Independent, if he ran on a GOP ticket. However, this could not happen, since his policies would have zero national right-wing support.
Fair enough, thanks.
11-20-2015 , 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by +rep_lol
lol are you really gonna masquerade around itt like there's no difference between hillary and the clowns that the republican party has trotted out on stage?
In what post did I claim there are no differences in their beliefs and ideas? One thing I think a lot you all miss is that having ideas is meaningless pretty much for a POTUS if they don't govern well. Part of governing well is convincing people that your ideas are with implementing which includes reaching agreements with the opposition.
11-20-2015 , 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by adios
Well let's start with economic policy how are Rubio's proposed economic policies different from what Hillary is proposing? As far as I can tell Hillary is a strong advocate of free enterprise and certainly a strong advocate for Wall Street.
If his proposed policies are not better, why would he pick up support over her?
11-20-2015 , 08:46 PM
Hillary is probably the most likely person to get things done. None of the republican candidates look like they will negotiate with the opposition and Sanders is too far to the left. Problem is that everyone might be surprised about the stuff Hillary does when she makes it into the white house. The only way a republican candidate gets anything done is if they end up controlling the senate as well. And to me that is a nightmare scenario that needs to be avoided so I prefer Hillary to win.
11-20-2015 , 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by adios
Well let's start with economic policy how are Rubio's proposed economic policies different from what Hillary is proposing? As far as I can tell Hillary is a strong advocate of free enterprise and certainly a strong advocate for Wall Street.
Rubio:
Repeal Dodd-Frank
Cut tax rate for business
Remove Capital Gains, Dividends, Estate Taxes
Repeal Net Neutrality
Repeal ACA

Clinton:
Defend Dodd-Frank
Raise rates on medium-term capital gains
Strengthen ACA
College debt relief, free community college, 'no-debt-tuition'
Raise the minimum wage
11-20-2015 , 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Benholio
Rubio:
Repeal Dodd-Frank
Cut tax rate for business
Remove Capital Gains, Dividends, Estate Taxes
Repeal Net Neutrality
Repeal ACA

Clinton:
Defend Dodd-Frank
Raise rates on medium-term capital gains
Strengthen ACA
College debt relief, free community college, 'no-debt-tuition'
Raise the minimum wage
so practically the same, yeah?
11-20-2015 , 10:04 PM
Like twins
11-20-2015 , 10:10 PM
Lets not forget that an R president for 8 years would almost certainly result in a supreme court that takes apart a lot of the progressive rulings lately. Taking away gay rights would be pretty incredible in 2022 in America.
11-21-2015 , 07:03 AM
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Originally Posted by adios
Well let's start with economic policy how are Rubio's proposed economic policies different from what Hillary is proposing? As far as I can tell Hillary is a strong advocate of free enterprise and certainly a strong advocate for Wall Street.
i'm not fkn doing this with you adios, go read wikipedia or something
11-21-2015 , 07:05 AM
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Originally Posted by adios
In what post did I claim there are no differences in their beliefs and ideas? One thing I think a lot you all miss is that having ideas is meaningless pretty much for a POTUS if they don't govern well. Part of governing well is convincing people that your ideas are with implementing which includes reaching agreements with the opposition.
then what is your point in all this questioning about rubio and clinton's respective policy positions? i'm supposed to like, change your mind or something?

rofl.

here's a little tip- at the core of most political disagreements is a basic fundamental difference in values and priorities. i think that educated and open conversation can convince some people to shift their priorities a bit, but people don't change their values without some kind of fairly major life experience(s) that give them a new perspective.

the reason republicans and democrats have such a rift between them that is not likely to change any time soon is because of their difference in values. democrats have respect and empathy for the poor and underprivileged. republicans don't. democrats have respect for women, republicans don't. democrats have respect for the intellectual process in decision-making and policy design, republicans don't. etc etc etc

you can save yourself a lot of time and headache when you accept that words on the internet are going to have very minimal impact in changing somebody's mind politically, and that it's especially true re: some right wing derptard

Last edited by +rep_lol; 11-21-2015 at 07:18 AM.
11-21-2015 , 09:24 AM
Iowa held a youth caucus (middle school and high schoolers that will not be old enough to vote in the GE) and OMalley did surprisingly well. Bernie won with 53 percent, Martin scored 23 percent, and Hillary limped in with 15 percent. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...politics_pop_b
11-21-2015 , 09:40 AM
If rubio's views weren't so abhorrent to young voters, he might do well with them against hilldawg
11-21-2015 , 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by BigPoppa
Personally, Hillary was my last choice among Dems but still way ahead of any GOP. I fear the idiots in Congress with no opposition President to stop them.
This. Current dynamics basically make voting for any Republican akin to national suicide.

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Originally Posted by adios
A caveat, I would lean toward Uncle Joe over Rubio. I think Uncle Joe would be competent at getting bills through Congress, more so than Rubio.

With that stated, why do you prefer Hillary over Rubio? I'll hazard a guess that since he's a Repub that automatically eliminates him as a candidate you'd consider voting for. That's ok, I'm not settin a trap or anything like that. If I am wrong what Repub do you think would stand a good chance of governing well as POTUS?
See above. The GOP has gone off the rails, no Republican President no matter how personally appealing (I'm still of the view McCain would have made a very good president) can stop their insanity.

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Originally Posted by adios
In what post did I claim there are no differences in their beliefs and ideas? One thing I think a lot you all miss is that having ideas is meaningless pretty much for a POTUS if they don't govern well. Part of governing well is convincing people that your ideas are with implementing which includes reaching agreements with the opposition.
Who was the last president to govern well IYO?
11-21-2015 , 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by seattlelou
Iowa held a youth caucus (middle school and high schoolers that will not be old enough to vote in the GE) and OMalley did surprisingly well. Bernie won with 53 percent, Martin scored 23 percent, and Hillary limped in with 15 percent. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...politics_pop_b
I've liked O'Malley from the moment he announced. He's going nowhere, I realize, and can barely raise money, but he should have more support.
11-21-2015 , 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by 2OutsNoProb
I've liked O'Malley from the moment he announced. He's going nowhere, I realize, and can barely raise money, but he should have more support.

Can't read too much into this but it does seem to bode well for his future.

      
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