Would agree that a sizable majority of Leave voters want hard brexit.

I also agree that most leavers would be happy with that. However, it would take a very small % of them not to prefer it to the status quo to overturn last June's result.

I'm reasonably happy with it. It could be going a lot worse. As long as we get brexit, that's the main thing

This is a pretty good insight into the mind of Juncker:

https://www.ft.com/content/552532c4-...c-50ba212dce4d

My favourite bit is:

Of course what the third group were saying was that Greece clearly didn't have any intention of balancing its books and should have the same status as Montengro, a user of the currency (if it wants to be) but nothing to do with the eurozone administation and structure.

In the very next paragraph without a hint of irony it says:

Well no **** mate, if you'd listened to what you were being told 4 years earlier.

This is the party whose sole representative in the European Parliament is a convicted terrorist.

I thought the UK left because of how horrible globalism was to it´s constituents. Are you for globalism?

Lol u, it's 2017 and you've just shown yourself up.

She fought in an armed struggle against British oppression, if you want to call her a terrorist that's up to you, just don't get all hot and bothered when I start using the same term to describe each and every minister that has served in British gov since time began.

Ffs your queen had no issue meeting with SF, also had no issue with putting a wreath in the memorial garden for the men who fought against her crown, same people that killed Mountbatten ffs.

Get with the times Lektor.

Though to be fair killing Mountbatten had quite a bit to do with Kincora Boys Home alumni by all accounts.

Anyway back to Mayesie

That I'm not sure about but labels from the past help nothing.

Ship me a link if you've any interesting reading please.

Do you have any idea what that actually entails? Because nothing you have written sounds like you do. Your stuff reads like the excrement produced by someone who eat too many mail and express headlines.

I'll support another referendum and vote to rejoin if a reasonable interval of time passes and the public mood changes.

But what you guys are pushing for is potentially much more dangerous, and could easily lead to a complete subversion of democracy by precedent.

I also think you are very unlikely to be successful agitating for a referendum now and will fatally damage the prospects of reunion in the future.

Of course, the Germans elect former Baader-Meinhof members, Italy is run by the red brigade, a former ETA member is hotly tipped for next pope - because lol it's 2017.

You're entitled to your view about this that but if SF hasn't moved on enough to consider such people unsuitable candidates then lol @ "community relations" with the community that was most often targeted and also lol @ the idea of persuading people from the mainland to listen to her.

It is interesting how many Brexit supporters who were dont worry negative consequence X wont happen because EU will of course compromise are now totally silent about how May is making said compromises look more and more unlikely.

If you go back itt, there were numerous arguments of this sort made itt by the usual suspects. Now its tumbleweed.gif.

Lol you don't get to tell people who they can elect.

You've no idea if you think the loyalist/protestant community was no1 target for republicans.....AFAIK they wouldn't have bothered with them at all if they hadn't been slaughtering Catholics and even when they did it was reluctantly.

Go have a read about Wolfe Tone and the United Irishmen that are so fondly celebrated by the modern republican movement, inform yourself ffs.

No, but I get to judge them for how they vote. Something you also seem happy enough to do.

Also your idea that "lol its 2017" is pretty inconsistent with the views expressed before the referendum (including by a highly respected professor from West Belfast) that it was all about to kick off again if we voted the wrong way. Was that just more project fear then?

SF voters know exactly who and what they vote for, brexit voters are just uninformed or misinformed idiots - i'd go with the latter.

Link to west belfast professor?

Main point is labels help nothing here, seems that's fine with you. Not with me because I've to raise a family here. No progress no nothing just name calling, yeah **** that nonsense.

You do realise the vast majority of these negative consequences (disastrous consequences that were sold as cast iron certainties that would happen almost immediately) have not precipitated, right?

Cue: the sheeplike bleat :"It hasn't happened yet."

lol

Correct


https://www.alaraby.co.uk/english/ne...ry-day-in-2017

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-39598979

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Telic#/search

Even have nice medals to commemorate a million dead.....

Post deleted, you walked into that lol.

You just make yourself look childish and not willing to be adult and reasonable when you try such a cack handed debating device.

I mean its almost like actually leaving the EU is irrelevant in your eyes, that is the line you are trying to take.

Of course that is absolutely dumb beyond words and even though its you, I know you dont really think that. So whatever, grow up maybe?

However I was referring to actions that everyone agreed would be negative in terms of consequences, e.g. like leaving the single market, everyone agreed they would be negative because to pretend otherwise was just not a position any reasonable person could take.

So instead of trying to debate that such actions would not have negative consequences, many Brexit fans insisted it was alright because hey these actions, like a hard Brexit, would never happen. Just go back and read this thread. You can make a meme out of we will do a Norway, or it would hurt them more than us.

Now that reality is here, and its obvious the EU holds all the cards in negotiating our separation, those that insisted otherwise are silent.

I judge people who voted for Blair in 2005 and Bush in 2004 pretty harshly too.

In your case it seem to depends who's killing who.

The professor says Brexit would threaten the peace process at 13:25

baaaaaah

Utterly pathetic.

One of the most weak wristed bed wetter posts evar.

I guess its pretty much your only option.

First thread I've seen on 2+2 with a hot terrorist.

wp sir

Care to expand? Because I don't understand what I've bolded.

Wtf he said brexit threatens the peace process and that's it, no details. If you find something with more detail from the west belfast professor I'll read or watch.