One of the things I just realized about Kavanaugh was that he was a practicing attorney in any meaningful sense of the word for only two years.

Who? The guy that thinks the Republicans are doing this to make Trump dictator?

The response is. **** the republicans. Merrick garland says hi.

Man, people are so bad at this. Poker players have to be among the best at assessing information, and even here we see people being like "welp I watched the testimony and my soul read is they were both credible and I don't know what to believe!"

Chezlaw made up his mind before hearing Ford testify or Kav defend himself.

Sept 18. - you know, when nonsworn letters were good enough of an investigation.

That'd be assuming they're good poker players. Even then I'm assuming a good chunk of people saying that kind of stuff are being completely dishonest with themselves about it and/or others and going into the process with extreme bias.

Are Kav's obvious lies about his drinking habits and yearbook contents what finally convinced you that he was telling the truth about sexual assault?

I disagree. An innocent or guilty Kavanaugh, a week away from being voted to the SC by Reps (who dont want an fbi invest) wants a vote and a push through, not an interview of his high school buddy, Mike Judge.

His high school buddy is named Mike Judge?

Damn that is fitting for the state of the country.

Why would an "innocent" BK want to be under this cloud? Why would an "innocent" BK lie so much under oath?

I take back the "random lady" part because in that case I'd figure they're mistaking me for someone else, so I wouldn't be angry. Same if it were a not-so-random lady who mixed me up with someone in my group of friends. Rather than be angry, I'd try to find out which former friend did it.

The only way I'd be angry is if I knew they were outright lying as opposed to just mistaken.

no, mark judge. mike judge has nothing to do with this and doesn't even have the same name as this guy, i bet he's watching this at home pissed that tons of people now think he was an accessory to rape. i feel bad for mike judge 2nd most of all, in this.

No.

If I were accused tomorrow of sexual assault, I would demand an investigation. Call all my high school buddies.

lol now The Kav is tampering with witnesses

Edit I can’t ****ing paste **** with my phone google Kerry bercham

If Republicans do anything more than a sham investigation it will be the biggest political mistake since firing Comey.

Maybe I'm more cynical than I should be, but the idea that this--this--one thing is something they'll be seriously taken to task for is ludicrous. I feel like congressional republicans underestimating the extent to which they can do any-****ing-thing they want and get away with it is a recurring theme. It's like McTurtle is the only one who gets it--literally none of this **** matters at all, and if you're going to be discrediting an election outcome in 2020, you're way off track if you can't even sack up and run a sham FBI investigation of a supreme court justice in 2018.

Whataboutism at its best.

You are right. Sorry Mike, too late to edit.

You are going to have to walk me through how talking about Kav in a discussion about Kav is whataboutism.

Are you on the short list for the Supreme Court?

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/sup...idence-n915566

there, so it turns out kav was texting some of his old pals related to the ramirez story before ramirez's story broke. I'm sure he regularly texts them and it was not, in fact, out of the blue and did not in fact remind them of things that did not in fact happen because in fact he is innocent.

Republicans have already responded and said they were irrelevant.

Thanks. None of know how we'd react in K*******h's shoes (assuming he genuinely believes he's innocent which imo *way* too many people, even those opposed to his nomination, take for granted). I've always been a much lighter drinker than K*******h. Different friend groups have commented that they've never seen me drunk. But I have been.

If the exact same thing happened to me (girl I hung out with a few times has been telling people for six years I drunkenly groped her) and I genuinely didn't remember it but she knew exactly who I was hanging out and her story was otherwise credible - I think I would just cop to it? It's a little complicated given how little I drink - but I'd probably figure that however unlikely is it I'd behave in such a way and forget it, it was even more unlikely for her story to be untrue. So I'd say I don't remember doing it but I'm not accusing her of lying and I'm truly sorry for how it affected her.

If I was drinking 100 kegs a year all the more so. It's just a Bayesian thing.

FWIW my best guess - I'm not saying this is >50% what happened, but it's imo the modal outcome is the following:

Judge & K*******h are wasted, hanging around upstairs while the rest of their friends are sober and downstairs. Their boy Squi's gf is taking a leak. Judge thinks it would hilarious to scare her when she comes out of the loo. Make the sweet 15 yr old maiden think she's getting attacked. LOL. Like saying BOO, but on steroids. Whispers to K*******h "do it! don't be a chicken! cluck! cluck!". Ford comes out of the loo and from behind K*******h pushes her into the bedroom. Just a joke. Maura would get scared but she'd laugh it off. Pranks!! 15 yr old girl freaks out. Starts screaming. She has no sense of humour!! K*******h tries to quiet her, turn up the music. She's trying to draw attention to them and make them look like *rapists* for playing a prank. Geez. 15 yr old eventually escapes and runs to the loo. Amazing. Hilarious prank! Got her!! Laughs ensue!!!

Guys think they have played a hilarious prank. But it's just a throwaway joke and mightn't stick with them. 15 yr old (understandably) thinks they actually tried to rape her. Moment sticks with her for years.

I stated chezlaw made up his mind based on Fords letter. Nothing about Kav and nothing about my opinion on Kav.

You asked me if Kavs lies about drinking convinced me Kav was guilty.

Nice whataboutism, Mr President.