dude sat there yesterday and said that birth control pills are "abortion inducing drugs" and the needle didn't move one bit. Only thing that would possibly derail this nomination at this point is Kav signing an endorsement deal with Nike and kneeling for the anthem.

To be fair, they'd be much more live if they had the documents being withheld. If this were a case it's where you'd move for sanctions for failure to cooperate in discovery.

Why on earth do you think kavanaughs pro abortion views would be more of a dealbreaker for rubio/scott/etc than his racism?

Like i get that the GOP endorses both, but they still have a troubled relationship with admitting the racism, and tim scott technically is black, i guess.

They have absolutely no trouble, however, standing behind their anti abortion views. So like, duh, of course "abortion inducing drugs" arent going to move the ****ing needle- that doesnt mean that the racism wont though

Ehhh they get awfully circumspect about the anti-abortion stuff in high profile spectacles. I mean Susan Collins laughably tries to thread that needle, right? Why is she bothering with performative "I talked to Kavanugh and he agrees Roe is settled law" Kabuki theater if they have no trouble standing behind their anti-abortion views? Pretty sure it's a liability at least for SOME of the caucus. Legal abortion is pretty popular!

Bull****, all these guys campaign on being pro lifers

Only about half of them explicitly campaign on racism tho. Its still more of a taboo subject for them

Oh I don't fault them for trying. I'd middle it and say it's both: it's grandstanding but as good game theory people here, we should recognize that the minority party isn't left with many options besides grandstanding and theatrics. I want to lay my cards on the table that I think this is absolutely performance theater (neither Leahy nor Booker nor Harris or anyone here has the slightest hope they're going to really derail the nomination) but that the Democrats owe it to their base to do theater anyway.

What's the alternative? Just rolling over and letting Kavanaugh and Lindsey Graham yuk it up about girls basketball, vote to affirm and then call it a day?

They have to fight, but it's still all for spectacle.

Murkowkski and Collins don't. Collins won an award from Planned Parenthood!

Did you even read the rest of my post? That's not the best thing they have. They released emails that are potentially damaging in the minds of some R Senators and could possibly get them to reject Kavanaugh. There are thousands more emails and documents to go through, so more could be coming.

How do you know that? Are you sure that his emails on overruling Roe or being against programs for native Hawaiians and perhaps Alaskans didn't move the needle one bit for Murkowski? Or that calling affirmative action a "naked racial set-aside" or contemplating racial profiling or other racist comments didn't move the needle one bit for Tim Scott?

I'm not saying that they're favorites to get Kavanaugh rejected, but they've got a shot, and to say otherwise is just WAAF and nothing matters gone wrong.

Watching these folks testifying for and against Kavanagh.... I Google the first woman I saw speak in support... Federalist Society member. Sigh.

i liked how booker obviously wanted a badass clip of himself saying, “bring it” but he kept getting talked over and tried like 5 times and still couldn’t get a clean sound bite

It's not too long ago that a bunch of guys tried to run to the right on abortion by wanting to outlaw rape exceptions, got blasted for their lol explanations for why rape was God's plan, and then lost their elections.

lol? I mean I hope you're right, but if you're gonna go spartacus and risk expulsion from the senate (lol, everyone knows there's zero chance of that), you don't release the crappy emails, you release the ****ing bomb.

this guy gets it

I mean, I'm not going to begrudge them getting their b-roll footage, the PACs are certainly tivoing the **** out of these hearings. All I'm saying is I'm not holding my breath on the slim chance that Kavanaugh, who has been practicing his whole life to do this one thing, is suddenly going to have an aneurism and fly the plane into the mountain.

if you're referring to todd "legitimate rape" akin, it wasn't exactly his anti-abortion stance which sunk him...

Apparently Booker released documents that were cleared for public consumption hours earlier... He released more after he got called out on that but nothing juicy in the follow up.

My bet is Booker and Grassley are in on this. Booker gets the publicity and Grassley gets to tell the deplorables he tried.

lololol Booker acting all badass, like Judas Priest’s BREAKIN THE LAW is blaring when he “releases” docs that had been cleared the night before.

Total clownshoes.

lol Cornyn was triggered and ready to throw a rope over the rafters for lynching Booker on the spot

This is so pathetic and transparent but it's gonna work.

LOL a wild Trump supporter pokes his head back in?

Hey, what's it like to learn that even your TOP INTELLECTUAL GOOD DAD CARPOOL judges are also venal liars who seem kinda dumb?

He seems like a giant scumbag and looks like there's a zero point zero chance he's anything other than a supreme court justice before november. They'd jam in a serial killer at this point they dgaf. Character is more important than politics and oh boy have we ****ed all this up.

slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/09/judge-brett-kavanaugh-should-be-impeached-for-lying-during-his-confirmation-hearings.html


I Wrote Some of the Stolen Memos That Brett Kavanaugh Lied to the Senate About.
He should be impeached, not elevated.

By LISA GRAVES SEPT 07, 201811:43 AM

Like the one input I kinda want to get from chyme here is how even at the upper ****ing echelon white shoe right wingers this culture of "lol owning the libs teehee aren't I clever" ends up with like, perjury and what will very possibly be impeachment.

Like any lessons in there for your kids and ****, chyme? Any ****ing thoughts on how the right wing culture warrior mindset of lib owning uber alles ends up?

This is somewhat interesting. In theory, McConnell and Grassley should tell Trump to withdraw Kavanaugh's name over the perjury and nominate someone else they can confirm. However, with a recess coming up next month they can't get a nominee through before the election, so if they ditch Kavanaugh they risk losing the Senate and having to cancel the holiday recesses to try to jam through a nominee against the will of the American people. The Democrats would lose their minds and delay like crazy, and it could work.

So, they are faced with the prospects of putting a justice on SCOTUS for life who perjured himself in prior confirmation hearings and taking on a maybe 10% risk of losing the seat. (Dems are probably around 20-25% to take the Senate, maybe ~70% to block an appointment for 6-7 weeks and still have to stall two years, win the White House and hold the Senate.)

So Justice Kavanaugh it'll be, I imagine. Although this could be enough ammo to peel off three votes... It's unlikely but possible that perjury is enough to get three out of Flake, Corker, Collins, Murkowski, Heller and Casey (up for re election two months after putting the guy who perjured himself on SCOTUS seems less than ideal).

We turned outs, but we're still drawing thin.

There's another calculus there that putting someone less compromised in will make it harder for the Dems to remove him. I think "impeach Kavanaugh" might be the moderate position Dems adopt to avoid dealing with the cluster**** of court-packing in a post-Trump administration world.