Barack Obama 2012 Containment Thread - Page 89 - Politics and Economics

Man, every time I hear sean hannity announce President Obama can't run on his record I LOL. He's done more good in 4 years than anyone in my lifetime (born in 82).

You must really love ****ty economies and government debt.

03-16-2012 , 01:08 PM

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Man, every time I hear sean hannity announce President Obama can't run on his record I LOL. He's done more good in 4 years than anyone in my lifetime (born in 82).

He's certainly assassinated more US citizens without due process than any other president.

03-16-2012 , 01:09 PM

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Yeah great record. Can't wait to see him bragging about the ndaa, patriot act, acta, killing juvenile americans convicted of no crime, crusading against whistle blowers and government transparency, and lets not forget the health care bill where he sold out his progressive base to the insurance industry, selling out the fda to monsanto, keeping GS in charge, etc. I'm expecting some really inspirational commercials on those topics

03-16-2012 , 01:24 PM

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None of those things are political liabilities.

03-16-2012 , 01:42 PM

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None of those things are political liabilities.

They are positives for BO. Democrats have to do something to escape the view that they are soft. No one is going to make that claim and have it stick with Obama. I disagree with a lot of the things he has ton because they don't jive with my politics, but he has done a wonderful job politicking imo.

03-16-2012 , 01:44 PM

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ITT someone says they like Obama and what he is done and people are completely shocked he doesnt care about things that the vast majority of Americans dont care about either.

03-16-2012 , 02:02 PM

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CBO: debt exploding under Obama's policies

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0312/74109.html

03-16-2012 , 02:11 PM

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What are people's top 5 Obama accomplishments?

03-16-2012 , 02:22 PM

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What are people's top 5 Obama accomplishments?

In no order, just off the top of my head

1. Obamacare
2. Leaving Iraq
3. USSC justice appointment?
4. Under him the EPA is working on a large project working on problems related to left over lead paint. (probably not a big media one, but I really like it)
5. I don't know

That's what I got off the top of my head. Not a terrible first term all things considered.

03-16-2012 , 02:28 PM

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What are people's top 5 Obama accomplishments?

1. Has increased the debt by 5T in 3 years,raised spending every year(dems love that)
2. Reducing country's oil supply to get the price of gas where dems want it(how do push green energy when gas is cheap)
3.Has increased families on food stamps by 46%(dems love govt dependants)
4.Has increased federal jobs by 150,000 since taking office.
5.Obamacare.

03-16-2012 , 02:29 PM

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Recess appointments to key areas are pretty big too.

eta: someone post the chart of oil production for steam

03-16-2012 , 02:35 PM

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What are people's top 5 Obama accomplishments?

Leaving Iraq
Killing OBL
Ending DADT
Returning house to the R's

03-16-2012 , 02:36 PM

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Leaving Iraq
Killing OBL
Ending DADT
Returning house to the R's

How could I forget those? Easily on my top 5.

03-16-2012 , 02:58 PM

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Obamacare
Leaving Iraq
Economy did not totally implode
Killing OBL
Saved domestic auto industry

those look pretty good to many moderate voters. hell, just use suzzer as a proxy.

imo dude is going to coast to a second term

03-16-2012 , 02:59 PM

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I've floated this around in my head a little since Blago went to jail. Maybe it's completely crazy. But any chance Obama pardons Blago at the end of his 2nd term?

03-16-2012 , 03:06 PM

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Are they friends or something?

03-16-2012 , 03:06 PM

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I wonder if Obamacare is a net positive or negative for Obama. The R's seem to believe it is a liability.

03-16-2012 , 03:09 PM

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CBO: debt exploding under Obama's policies

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0312/74109.html

CBO: More than 3/4 of the added deficits can be explained by the Bush tax being continued.

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The GOP has been quick to fault Obama for excess spending. But more than three-quarters of the $3.5 trillion in added red ink can be explained by what is still a rich diet of tax breaks continued by the president — but not under the CBO’s baseline.

CBO: Deficits to fall below 3% of GDP by 2016 - a key milestone of fiscal sustainability.

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“CBO found that by 2016 deficits as a share of the economy would be below 3 percent – a key milestone of fiscal sustainability,” said Jeff Zients, director of the Office of Management and Budget. “It found that after implementing the president’s budget, debt held by the public will decrease and then stabilize as a share of the economy, also a key indicator of improving fiscal health.”

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0312/74109.html

03-16-2012 , 03:09 PM

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CBO: debt exploding under Obama's policies

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0312/74109.html

Seems to me the GOP would be all over him either way

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03-16-2012 , 03:13 PM

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I think Democrats would say

Health Care Reform
Killing Bin Laden
Handling of Libya
Leaving Iraq
Auto Bailout
(Recess appointments, ending DADT are up there too, hard to rate. There's also ending the use of torture, the Nuclear arms treaty, investments in green energy, a huge review and likely future change in mandatory minimum sentences, especially related to drugs but covering everything, etc)

Republicans, if they weren't busy chastising him, would say

Increasing border security
Deporting more IA than Bush
Dead Bin Laden
Reducing the number of government employees by 2.6%
Tax cuts or all the stuff he's done for Veterans or all the government programs he's cut, or his initiative to reduce 6 agencies of the government into 1, or the whitehouse performance team which is making government agencies more efficient, or some other stuff.

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03-16-2012 , 03:17 PM

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"We are not a nation that says 'don't ask don't tell.' We are a nation that says 'out of many, we are one.'" - Barack Obama

"I am a president who thinks that homosexuals deserve worse treatment that heterosexuals" - Barack Obama

03-16-2012 , 03:18 PM

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I think Democrats would say

Health Care Reform
Killing Bin Laden
Handling of Libya
Leaving Iraq
Auto Bailout
(Recess appointments, ending DADT are up there too, hard to rate)

Republicans, if they weren't busy chastising him, would say

Increasing border security
Deporting more IA than Bush
Dead Bin Laden
Reducing the number of government employees by 2.6%
Tax cuts or all the stuff he's done for Veterans or all the government programs he's cut, or his initiative to reduce 6 agencies of the government into 1, or some other stuff.

Federal government employment has fallen by 2.6 percent? If so that is something Obama should mention more often.