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03-17-2012 , 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted by steelhouse
The economy was far better 2 years ago than today.
This was already a good start!
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Home prices were lower and dropping making them more affordable.
This is also false (home prices were dropping...making them lower today). Etc. for the rest of that post...
03-17-2012 , 11:15 PM
"The economy was great for reasons that show the economy was terrible."

Steeeeeeeeeeeelllllllllllllllllllllhooooouuuusssss eee
03-17-2012 , 11:17 PM
The stimulus housed the broadest tax cuts in history.
03-17-2012 , 11:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Malefiicus
The stimulus housed the broadest tax cuts in history.
There are no tax cuts if you don't cut the spending - Ron Paul. All you did is cut income/payroll tax and transfer the taxes to the inflation tax the broadest and cruelest tax of all.
03-17-2012 , 11:49 PM
sigh
03-18-2012 , 05:53 AM
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Originally Posted by [Phill]
But that does not mean that Monsanto is directly running the FDA or GS is controlling the value of currency (wait, doesnt the Federal Reserve do that so its not even an Obama appointment?). That is just conspiracy bull**** where you have made a HUGE leap.

And yeah the lobbying in Washington is clearly bad. But i bet if i went through your post history you were one of the people laughing at those anti capitalist 99%ers and im sure you are completely against public funding political campaigning which is pretty much the only way you can create an independence between politics and corporations.
1. Monsanto is directly running the FDA.

2. Goldman Sachs Obama appointments

3. As usual you are dead wrong. I spearhead a pro OWS discussion group even. How is it possible to be wrong so often?

4. No public funding is not the only way. Shorter election cycles, elimination of corporate funding, and caps on maximum donations as well as a ban on television ads is my recommendation.
03-18-2012 , 06:19 AM
Now granted, determining that Goldman Sachs literally controls the value of the dollar is difficult to do and I overstated the case in relation to the strength of evidence at hand. The revolving door of people who take turns working for either GS, the Fed, and Obamas cabinet (particularly the Treasury) is quite a list, and combined with the various scandals regarding GS (recieving secret billions from the Treasury during the financial crisis, for instance) points to a large degree of cooperation but it would take more research and possibly a lot of speculation to really show much more. The ties between the three are apparent but that's not a point the three groups publicly discuss at great lengths.

Regardless the Federal Reserve IS a private bank so it is 100% correct to say that a private group controls our currency - it is simply difficult to distinguish how much of that control is GS. And yes the Fed Chairman is appointed by Obama so he does have responsibility for their activities even though he does not control them.
03-18-2012 , 06:25 AM
I'm curious what Obamafans think about the latest presidential propaganda video having all negative comments filtered out. Personally I think that's telling.

In other news Kony 2012 disabled comments on their video altogether a few days ago. I have a feeling similar reasons are at play in both cases.
03-18-2012 , 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by sterlinguini
I'm curious what Obamafans think about the latest presidential propaganda video having all negative comments filtered out. Personally I think that's telling.
Tells us what, exactly? That he's running for re-election? I'm sure the other candidates are doing much the same thing.
03-18-2012 , 11:22 AM
Lol, i knew those links would be exactly what i joked about they would be in the post you quoted. Hiring someone who worked at Monsanto doesnt mean Monsanto "controls" the FDA.
03-18-2012 , 11:25 AM
It's probably better to look where they work after their public service. Although the results will probably be approximately the same.
03-19-2012 , 07:29 AM
http://www.examiner.com/finance-exam...l-us-resources

So, according to my conspiritard Facebook buddies this is the next story "proving" how evil Obama is. The weird thing is that when searching on the topic the only sane view I find is from a teaparty site. lol?

www.teapartyorg.ning.com/forum/topics/re-martial-law-obama-issues-executive-order-national-defense
03-19-2012 , 07:46 AM
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Originally Posted by [Phill]
Lol, i knew those links would be exactly what i joked about they would be in the post you quoted. Hiring someone who worked at Monsanto doesnt mean Monsanto "controls" the FDA.
Reading is cool, try it imo
03-19-2012 , 11:17 AM
Was this posted here yet?

http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-...s-preparedness
03-19-2012 , 11:54 AM
I for one will lose sleep over the thought that some dude at the Department of Agriculture is going to have to write a report about the availability of food resources in case of a national emergency.
03-19-2012 , 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by sterlinguini
I'm curious what Obamafans think about the latest presidential propaganda video having all negative comments filtered out. Personally I think that's telling.

In other news Kony 2012 disabled comments on their video altogether a few days ago. I have a feeling similar reasons are at play in both cases.
Should I go looking at Ron Paul's videos for updates on the gangs of black teenagers pricking people with AIDS needles?
03-19-2012 , 06:37 PM


lol fox news.

Time for another round of everyone's favorite Fox News game: Find the Lies
03-19-2012 , 06:49 PM
Spoiler:
03-19-2012 , 07:00 PM
Speaking of lies, Obama's insurance account get's three Pinocchio's from the conservative rag WaPo:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...d4KS_blog.html
03-19-2012 , 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by seattlelou
Speaking of lies, Obama's insurance account get's three Pinocchio's from the conservative rag WaPo:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...d4KS_blog.html
regardless of whether their analysis is accurate you should make clear what it is they say he's lying about, namely his mother's cancer/end of life care/insurance experience.

For more comprehensive fact-checking on relevant policy pieces of the video see: http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...campaign-film/
03-19-2012 , 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by goofball


lol fox news.

Time for another round of everyone's favorite Fox News game: Find the Lies
How do State and State and Local get separate boxes?
03-19-2012 , 07:20 PM
Just be happy there wasnt a federal and state and local box there too.
03-19-2012 , 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by seattlelou
Speaking of lies, Obama's insurance account get's three Pinocchio's from the conservative rag WaPo:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...d4KS_blog.html
You don't want to play? We can play find the lies in the obama video another day, then calculate the lies/second and extrapolate.
03-19-2012 , 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by goofball
You don't want to play? We can play find the lies in the obama video another day, then calculate the lies/second and extrapolate.
Hmm, i must have missed the game. WTF you talking about?


Edit: Maybe I am supposed to support the Fox graph in some sort of comparative lie show down? Isn't the answer posted in post right below your original post? Did some bad religious Republican touch you in your bathing suit area?

Last edited by seattlelou; 03-19-2012 at 08:26 PM.
03-20-2012 , 01:09 PM
Apparently today or recently the national debt has gone up more under Obama in his ~3 years in office than in Bush's 8 years.

      
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