God damn constitution

hahahahahaha

Please elaborate!

Who knew such a small polititical shift could produce a big political win. This move still exposes the the extreme religious right as anti-women while playing to women because their birth control will be covered.

Also nuclear policy is such a good thing to hear for everybody. It needs to be done.

Which kind of makes this whole discussion rather stupid, doesn't it?

There's some bat**** lady on CNN right now debating James Carville, who reminded her that insurance companies are glad to pick up the tab on contraceptives because they're +EV in the long run. Idk who this lady is, but she gets quite heated about how the next thing were going to be doing is letting the insurance companies knock grandma off if its cheaper or force women to get abortions. Great to know where this debate is heading.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor...rc=slate_river

Obama is kind of a boss imo

Carville is wrong BECAUSE of Obamacare. Obamacare allows Ins Co to have 15% over total health service expenditures, and if total premiums exceed that, they must refund the balance.

Premiums will be overcharged as a standard, like over withholding for taxes. The insentive for Ins Cos under obamacare is to max service spending. They get 15% over spending. They LOSE money if preventative measures save medical costs.

Uh, prior to obamacare, insurance companies were charging more than 15%. Obamacare brought the insurance company take down.

Point. You missed it.

That spew had a point?

No, false.

Insurance companies don't determine health service spending, health providers do, i.e., doctors and hospitals.

Part of ObamaCare includes 7 pages that deal with Accountable Care Organizations:
Insurers cannot just make health service expense numbers up because they are audited.

And if premiums are "overcharged as a standard" as you suggest, wouldn't the insurance market make that insurer lose customers as it became less price competitive?

seeing obama winning as -187 at various sportsbooks, gotta be some decent value no?

Yeah, I wondered if it was a Plouffe/Axelrod/Obama (PAO POW) rope-a-dope ploy to give a little aid and abetting to Mr. Frothman to make Mr Morman mad enough to do something crazy like strap Santorum to the top of his bus or plane or something.

That would probably require too much finesse and risk-taking though.

Obama and Axelrod are tricky tho; they learned their political street skills in Chicago, so I wouldn't put it past them. If they did, it was brilliant, in a rear naked choke sort of way, tho trying to rear-naked choke Frothy could be a messy proposition, but that move on Romney would be fine cuz he's probably wearing that very clean and magical underwear.

I really didn't get that Catholic outrage stuff. Sure, fine, you don't want to offer women's contraceptives at your Catholic Church, fine. It's not like women are allowed to be Priests anyway, and Nuns get none anyway, and Priests are supposed to be celibate.

But when the Catholic power brokers decide to branch out into hospitals and schools, well, that's not a religious church anymore, and so I don't see why they should get 1st Amend protection. You want Freedom of Religion, stay in your church imo, otherwise you should have to follow all the rules everyone else does.

"No woman’s health should depend on who she is or where she works or how much money she makes. Every woman should be in control of the decisions that affect her own health. Period." -President Obama

Two options for the GOP now. Either concede and agree with the President or continue to alienate women. Either way you lose. Just brilliant political strategy.

Yeah, sick options there. I guess following the constitution just doesnt matter anymore, but that's really already been established with the commerce clause though.

the GOP has dug themselves in a hole on this one

If we blindly followed the Constitution, women wouldn't even be able to vote.

If they don't want to pay women's health benefits to workers in their church and at their church, fine, don't pay it.

But I don't see why a religion thinks they can open a hospital or school and not have to follow the same rules as everyone else. Tax free too, with profits flowing to the Vatican. Sweet deal. They should expand. Open fast food, clothing stores, electronic stores, gasoline stations, buy an oil company, don't offer women quality health care that will reduce abortions, all tax free, surplus (profits) sent to the Vatican. Groovy!

If I open a Rastafarian store, can I sell and smoke ganja in my store?

You don't really think that right?

Also I suppose then that you think that tax-free status for churches also violates the first ammendment?

Women do have the right to vote in the Constitution. Its called the 19th amendment.

Which was added in 1920.

19th amendment bro! There's a specific way to change the constitution, and it's there for very good reasons.

If it was only for churches, it would be. Since tax exempt status is given to massive amounts of charities as well as religious institutions, it's obvious you have no idea what you're talking about.

bump4klinker

This is Greenwald's bs:


Progressives and the Ron Paul fallacies

Greenmold also bashed Obama relentlessly over LGBT and DADT issues, until DADT was repealed and Glenn slinked away in silence.

Glenn is incorrect about NDAA, but that doesn't stop him from repeating his nonsense. The guy is a Libertarian hack, who worked for Cato.