Does monogamy exist outside of religion in any significant number?

Because it makes me happy.

From the looks of the divorce rate, it isn't

FYP

A) Monogamy and marriage are not synonymous. You can be monogamous but not married, and you can be married and non-monogamous (both openly and secretively).

B) People practise monogamy for a variety of reasons, some for religion, some for tradition, some, partly because it is a cultural norm. Plenty of people choose to be monogamous because that is how they think they can best live their lives.

Are you monogamous (I'll just assume you're in a monogamous relationship, if you're not, imagine you are) just because God tells you to be, or because society tells you to be? Or are you monogamous because you like having a monogamous relationship with your partner?

Yeah, wtf?

I guess it's just because God tells him to and he's secretly dying to bang everything in sight. Poor guy.

Now the NYT is taking aim at the Koch family

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/29/op...h.html?_r=1&hp

Again trying to tie libertarians to the xenophobic, war mongering tea partiers. I guess its a good sign that the liberal establishment is worried enough to do this.

The Ron Paul tea partiers do a pretty good job of this themselves by lumping themselves into a group with the crazy Palinite tea partiers. If you're part of the same organization as these people, don't go crying when people start associating you with them.

Also, as if there is no overlap between the two groups. There is a very significant overlap on the Tea Party venn diagram between the Ron Paul/libertarian circle and the Sarah Palin/Glenn Beck circle. They're not the same circle, but many of them are connected, in some of their policies, in some of the people that are part of the movement, in some of their attitudes, in some of their cultural, ethnic, religious, political outlooks and so on.

Maybe. But we're talking about the Koch family.

Marriage is not a religious institution

I have a different girl for everyday of the week. Women love conservatives because we are real men.

Mine isn't even a state institution.

That's pretty much the problem. DUCY?

Yeah, this is important. The Christian sacrament of marriage is defined from the civil concept, not the other way around.

Are we "banning gay marriage" or are we just not sanctioning it? Heterosexuals and homosexuals in the end have equal rights today as it relates to marriage. Each can marry someone of the opposite sex and each is not able to have a marriage to the same sex sanctioned by the government.

Foldpre indeed

Foldpre,

Please feel free to never post on this subject ever again. This will solve future embarrassment for yourself.

lol

[Phil],

Please feel free to insult every poster you do not agree with as usual.

feel free to point out what is incorrect in my statement...


...any time now

DrModern tore up the argument you just used a while back, so now everyone disagrees with it, because you don't go around ****ing with DrModern.

And in the 1950s black and white people had exactly equal rights to marry people of the same race, amirite?

Rep. Eddie Bernice Johnson violated rules, steered scholarships to relatives

LOL @ my congresswoman. She claims grandchildren do not count as family!

We should ban christianity, that way everyone will have the right to pray to allah and we won't be discriminating against anyone.

thats good, really good...

lol