April Fools LC Thread
04-24-2016
, 10:02 AM
04-24-2016
, 10:12 AM
04-24-2016
, 10:35 AM
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Ikes you realize that the US far outpaces the rest of the world in opioid use, right? A 2009 UN report on narcotics had us using ~100% of hydrocodone and 81% of oxycodone - even if it's significantly less than that now, there's some evidence that we are overusing it. I assume we're both mostly on the same side when it comes to opioid prescribing in that we have to be careful that legit patients aren't being denied (maybe not as you seem like the type who might go ape**** on a pharmacist for questioning your authority to give drugs to whoever you damn well choose) but acting like there's nothing to see here, move along, doctors know what they're doing is pretty disingenuous. There are pill mills out there and there are physicians who throw opioids at their patients as a way of getting them out of their hair, not to mention the far greater numbers who mean well but don't get to follow up and end up accidentally creating abuse problems.
Also suzzer was likely referring to Oxycontin in his earlier post, which has only recently gone generic after earlier forms were blocked several years ago for not being tamper-resistant enough. The Purdue family is now like the 14th richest family in America thanks to Oxycontin, so yeah there may have been some financial incentives involved, though I don't think "big pharma" was intentionally pushing addiction, they just weren't standing in the way. Also it turned out that, despite the formulation, it was just fine and dandy for abusers to crush it up and use it; the more recent version is supposed to have deterred that further.
Also suzzer was likely referring to Oxycontin in his earlier post, which has only recently gone generic after earlier forms were blocked several years ago for not being tamper-resistant enough. The Purdue family is now like the 14th richest family in America thanks to Oxycontin, so yeah there may have been some financial incentives involved, though I don't think "big pharma" was intentionally pushing addiction, they just weren't standing in the way. Also it turned out that, despite the formulation, it was just fine and dandy for abusers to crush it up and use it; the more recent version is supposed to have deterred that further.
I know of the opiate problem much more than suzzer. No one here is disputing there's a problem. The big pharma **** is pure nonsense that you can't back up whatsoever. Oxycodone is a very good drug and the generic was held back by the government, not the company.
04-24-2016
, 11:06 AM
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The company that makes the narcotic painkiller OxyContin and three current and former executives pleaded guilty today in federal court here to criminal charges that they misled regulators, doctors and patients about the drug’s risk of addiction and its potential to be abused.
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Federal officials said that internal Purdue Pharma documents show that company officials recognized even before the drug was marketed that they would face stiff resistance from doctors who were concerned about the potential of a high-powered narcotic like OxyContin to be abused by patients or cause addiction.
As a result, company officials developed a fraudulent marketing campaign designed to promote OxyContin as a time-released drug that was less prone to such problems.
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But according to federal officials, Purdue sales representatives falsely told doctors that the statement, rather than simply being a theory, meant that OxyContin had a lower potential for addiction or abuse than drugs like Percocet. Among other things, company sales officials were allowed to draw their own fake scientific charts, which they then distributed to doctors, to support that misleading abuse-related claim, federal officials said.
Between 1995 and 2001, OxyContin brought in $2.8 billion in revenue for Purdue Pharma, a closely held company based in Stamford, Conn. At one point, the drug accounted for 90 percent of the company’s sales.
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Federal officials said that internal Purdue Pharma documents show that company officials recognized even before the drug was marketed that they would face stiff resistance from doctors who were concerned about the potential of a high-powered narcotic like OxyContin to be abused by patients or cause addiction.
As a result, company officials developed a fraudulent marketing campaign designed to promote OxyContin as a time-released drug that was less prone to such problems.
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But according to federal officials, Purdue sales representatives falsely told doctors that the statement, rather than simply being a theory, meant that OxyContin had a lower potential for addiction or abuse than drugs like Percocet. Among other things, company sales officials were allowed to draw their own fake scientific charts, which they then distributed to doctors, to support that misleading abuse-related claim, federal officials said.
Between 1995 and 2001, OxyContin brought in $2.8 billion in revenue for Purdue Pharma, a closely held company based in Stamford, Conn. At one point, the drug accounted for 90 percent of the company’s sales.
04-24-2016
, 11:12 AM
04-24-2016
, 11:33 AM
lol at trying to tie this into the drug war with some idiotic Reason.com bull****. The demand was directly created by Purdue through fraud, aided and abetted by lazy-ass, pill-pushing doctors. I don't think there was a whole lot of pent up demand out there for people to become opiate addicts after having their wisdom teeth removed.
04-24-2016
, 12:40 PM
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04-24-2016
, 01:20 PM
