Do you guys find it possible that there are differences in certain attributes between the respective races? And if so, why is it so taboo to talk about it?

Why is it generally accepted that the human race evolved consistently across the planet, when for hundreds of thousands are years humans displayed isolationist behavior? It's almost like saying that every species of bear is as strong, as smart, as big as other species, when we know that it isn't true.

It may be sample size, but almost every Irish descendant I've come across has been stocky and generally both tough and strong. Cajuns in southwest Louisiana, where I live, are generally small and thin. I can't remember the last time that I saw an asian that I thought would destroy me. And sports are dominated by black people.

So are these differences cultural or physical, because there are differences. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see it, and I don't think acknowledging it makes you a racist.

I would put money on the fact that there are more physical birth defects/disabilities with the caucasian race than with others, and there's probably literature on it as well. Caucasians are the only ones with blond hair, asians have distinct facial features, mexicans have more facial hair... The races DO have quite a few differences past skin color and excluding muscle tone, thought patterns, and bone structure is a bit ignorant.

Like this article I was reading which was the motivation for this thread:

Why is this guy branded as a racist for these statements? Does anyone genuinely think they are false? If this guy said, "asians are more intelligent than caucasians." I wouldn't give a ****, because I'd think that he'd know more about genetics than I would.

Then again it could it be culture? The African American culture in the United States is not conducive to education/learning, and they immediately label their peers who attempt to educate themselves as people who 'act white'. Asian culture is very disciplined and that's a contributing factor as to why they have the highest level of education in the world. So I definitely think culture plays a part...

Anyway, here is a link to that article. They did a very good job at making the guy look like a racist, especially with the headline, and it's almost sickening how perverted the term has become.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...=null&offset=0

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recommend posting this in SMP

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First of all, Watson is a freaking nut. Brilliant, but probably completely crazy. Second, of course there are bound to be some differences in various abilities between the average Caucasian, African, Asian, etc. The differences are probably very small for most things and certainly are non-predictive wrt individuals. To be honest, the differences between men and women are almost certainly much larger, but don't talk about it or you're chauvinistic.

The forum is full of conspiracy theorists now talking about how George W. Bush plays racquetball with Ho Chi Mihn, while they plot to blame world hunger on Osama Bin Laden, when really Oprah is pulling all the strings.

All human races are equal except for those mutants from the X-Men. **** those weirdos imo.

Basically, our society is nowhere near ready to discuss this, and discussion of this wouldn't be particularly helpful if we were.

We're not ready because we're obviously a world full of people with varying degrees of unjustified racism, and giving people facts to misunderstand and use to justify their racism is a horrible idea. We're also not ready because the histories of people of different races are so dramatically different that they receive hugely different educations and upbringings to this day, so any test would be much more likely to reveal those (already really obvious) differences and nothing else.

The discussion couldn't really ever be helpful because if there are differences, it's clear that they're small enough that they wouldn't justify forming policy or social norms based on them.

WOW.

You know when it comes to racism, people say: " I don't care if they're black, white, purple or green"... Ooh hold on now: Purple or Green? You gotta draw the line somewhere! To hell with purple people! - Unless they're suffocating - then help'em.

-Mitch

no, we are all a bunch of domesticated animals. the races have become so domesticated that we appear to be eqaul in the view of others. but we're still animals and it was more apparent back in the day when the blacks were gorillas and the whites were cave animals.

Well it won't matter in the future since we are all expected to become one race within so many years.

Pretty sure that I read that caucasians will become less than 1.0% of the population within 200 years or something like that.

dude 50 cent is a guerilla

find this pretty interesting tbh

noah's post was v good

u should read freakonmics, they address the afro-american IQ issue well in that. basically it seems like its all culture

Race war!


Who takes it down?...

duh!

The Chinese.

and yes certain races are inferior/superior

The mutants ainec. We can't compete with laser eyes and indestructible claws.

On a side note, if you saw Professor Xavier on the train and he gave you the stinkeye and then proceeded to use his telekinetic powers to gently fondle your penis and you got a boner does that make you gay?

the amount of implicit racism in this statement is off the charts, and it has nothing to do with how intelligent/talented black/white people are

Edit: actually rather than leave this as a 'ducy' type post ill just explain what i mean.

Implicit in this statement are the following assumptions:

-White people alone are in positions of management/ownership/decision making
-The article will not be read or understood by any person of color and has been written exclusively for white people
-People of color need to prove themselves in the workplace to white people to a greater degree than other white people.
-People of color will always start in business at the 'lower level'

I could go on but i think ive made my point. Chances are the reason he is getting so much slack is because of things like this moreso than the actual central point as made by op

it is also far worse than the following statement, which in itself i personally have no issue with being raised as a theory and is quite possibly correct when looking at averages (im black fwiw)

Read this if you are interested:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_bell_curve

racist ban

imo

wtf am i looking at

color wheel?

There is nothing to be gained from the research. It would just lead to justifying racism. you know, like eugenics in the early 20th century.

all,

How, exactly, is this obvious?

The real problem, of course, is that people on both sides of the issue, both the "racialists" and "egalitarians", probably don't know many of the facts to accurately give opinions on the issue. But of course people will automatically default to the ignorant, "race-neutral" position, because since the great Civil Rights Awakening everyone knows you are oh-so-evil if you ever called "racist".

Ignorance should obviously be spit upon. But the preponderance of the genetic data points in a very different direction that most people would wish.

Here is a mega post discussing James Watson and his comments, from someone who has done extensive research of the facts.

Anyone who wants a rational basis for their racial worldview is encouraged to read it.