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04-11-2017 , 05:50 AM

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425kid

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LOL OLDS

04-11-2017 , 01:26 PM

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Alabama politics has been a cesspool for as long as I can remember. It's not so different from Illinois politics. Candidates perpetually run on a platform of cleaning up corruption, and then once in office, they show themselves to be just as corrupt as their predecessors. And just as in Illinois, the opposition party devotes a lot of effort to trying to tag those in power with corruption charges.

04-11-2017 , 02:20 PM

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https://twitter.com/bradheath/status/850468311607521280

04-12-2017 , 01:41 AM

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alabama senate just passed a bill allowing churches their own police force

wtf

Illinois is not Alabama, yeah we're corrupt and broke but at least we're not racist as hell.

04-12-2017 , 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by einbert

https://twitter.com/bradheath/status/850468311607521280

Remember, if an authority figure tells you to break up with your boyfriend, you better do it without resistance.

04-12-2017 , 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by wheatrich

alabama senate just passed a bill allowing churches their own police force

wtf

Illinois is not Alabama, yeah we're corrupt and broke but at least we're not racist as hell.

I obviously was talking about corruption in state gov't, not the state as a whole.

04-12-2017 , 03:08 PM

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Shame and Embarrassment should be their state motto.

04-13-2017 , 04:36 PM

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Bentley wanted to 'get rid' of Luther Strange, lawmaker says
http://www.al.com/news/montgomery/in..._rid_of_l.html

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Former Gov. Robert Bentley appointed Luther Strange to the U.S. Senate in February to rid the state of him because of concerns over corruption, a state lawmaker said Wednesday.

State Rep. Ed Henry, R-Hartselle, said Bentley explained the rationale behind his then yet-to-be-announced selection during a private meeting at the state capitol. Hours later, Bentley named Strange to replace the seat vacated by U.S. Attorney General Jeff Sessions.

In an interview Wednesday with AL.com, Henry said Bentley told him there was a lot of corruption in the state. "(Bentley) said, most of it is in the AG's office, and Luther's the head of it, and I'm just going to appoint him and get him out of this state," Henry said.

U.S. News & World Report first told of Henry's conversation with Bentley in a story posted late Tuesday afternoon.

"I said 'Are you kidding me?'" Henry said of his response to Bentley. "You're going to appoint a man that you know is corrupt to the U.S. Senate where we may not get rid of him for 30 years?'

"He said, 'Ed, I've got to get rid of him. I've got to get him out of this state or we're not going to be able to straighten anything out.'"

Bentley attorney William Athanas, in an interview with AL.com, gave an "unequivocal denial" that Bentley made the comments about Strange. Athanas also questioned why Henry kept the information to himself for two months.

Henry said that had impeachment proceedings continued against Bentley, the conversation would have been brought out to demonstrate that Bentley was in neglect of his duties as governor.

Henry's account is perhaps an indicator that part of the fallout over Bentley's resignation is already landing on Strange. As the Alabama attorney general, Strange had been obligated to oversee the investigation into Bentley at the point when Bentley sent him to D.C.

The state investigation into Bentley came to a head with Bentley's resignation on Monday after pleading guilty to two misdemeanors related to misuse of state and campaign funds. And with the release of state investigative findings. the timeline around Strange's appointment has become clearer:

On Oct. 20, 2016, Strange's office issued a press release clearing former ALEA Director Spencer Collier of any wrongdoing. But the impeachment committee's report, released Friday, outlined more than 100 pages of possible impropriety by Collier.
On Nov 3, 2016, Strange called on the House impeachment committee to suspend its work because of a "related" investigation and the committee granted that request. Five days later, Donald Trump was elected president in a stunning upset and then-Sen. Jeff Sessions was widely expected to join the administration, which was announced on Nov. 18.
On Feb. 9, Bentley announced his decision to appoint Strange to succeed Sessions, who had been confirmed as attorney general by the Senate the day before. Strange, on the day he was appointed to the Senate, declined to confirm such an investigation of Bentley existed.
On Feb. 15, Steve Marshall, who was appointed by Bentley to replace Strange as state attorney general, recused himself from the ongoing Bentley investigation and appointed a special prosecutor, Ellen Brooks.
Less than two months later, the impeachment committee - which Strange requested suspend its work -- released its scathing report that resulted in Bentley's resignation, which also included a guilty plea to two misdemeanor charges.

04-18-2017 , 09:46 PM

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special election moving up to this year, strange gonna get got if he even bothers running

04-18-2017 , 10:25 PM

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Tis a shame a dem still has no chance.

04-21-2017 , 02:06 PM

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Need another right wing party there to split the vote.

04-26-2017 , 10:30 AM

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Tis a shame a dem still has no chance.

heh yeah zero chance, Howell Heflin was the last elected Democrat from Bama to serve in the US Senate (coward Richard Shelby switched parties when the GOP took Congress in 1994 and has been a Repub since).

Some notes about "Democrat" Howell Heflin

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He strongly opposed legal abortion and all gun control laws. Heflin supported prayer in public schools and opposed extending federal laws against discrimination to homosexuals. He supported the Gulf War of 1991 and opposed cuts in defense spending. With Fritz Hollings from South Carolina, he was one of only two Democrats in the Senate to vote against the Family and Medical Leave Act. He occasionally voted with Republicans on taxes.

He did actually vote against Clarence Thomas, but only because he considered Thomas "inexperienced." OTOH he supported HW Bush's nomination of John Tower as Secretary of Defense. I remember visiting DC in high school and our delegation visited him at his office in Dirksen and he basically said it was fine because Tower would be working under the supervision of the President so what could go wrong?

lol dixiecrats

04-26-2017 , 08:31 PM

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Roy Moore, who decided Jesus had called on him personally to stop the societal destruction that is same-sex marriage, has thrown his hat in the ring for the open Senate seat:

http://www.al.com/news/montgomery/in...labama_ch.html

04-27-2017 , 12:37 AM

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My favorite part of Alabama is how they have incorrect grammar on their signs. All they had to do was take out either the word "keep" or "the". The sign would have made 100% sense. But nope, 'Bama gonna 'Bama. How many people had to sign off on that sign? Never occurred to any of them to correct it.

Also, notice the car in front? The driver drove past the sign, said "WTF?", pulled over and took a picture.

04-27-2017 , 09:43 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Namath12

Some notes about "Democrat" Howell Heflin

He did actually vote against Clarence Thomas, but only because he considered Thomas "inexperienced."

Highlighted in the correct color so those not from Alabama can understand.

04-27-2017 , 09:49 AM

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"Alabama the Beautiful" is the state motto. It's not just random words some redneck put on a sign.

04-27-2017 , 10:02 AM

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AL State Fraternal Order of Police 'vehemently opposes' 2 gun bills
http://www.kltv.com/story/35258626/a...es-2-gun-bills

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Law enforcement officers from across Alabama are voicing their concerns over bills in the legislature. They oppose two bills, House Bill 414 and Senate Bill 24, which would eliminate the requirement of purchasing a permit to carry a concealed weapon.

The Fraternal Order of Police is "vehemently opposed" to the bills stating its belief the legislation endangers the lives of officers and puts citizens at risk.

Montgomery County Sheriff Derrick Cunningham says the bills diminishes his officers' power.

"You got just a handful of people who pass these bills and push them out into our communities," Cunningham stated. "Then they wonder why we have the violence in our communities, why we have the problems in our communities. We're having these problems because of what's being pushed down on us that takes away our powers to enforce firearms laws."

Cunningham called it "a sad day in Alabama when we see stuff like this taking place."

04-27-2017 , 10:34 AM

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The gun lobby is the ****ing nut low

ETA Florida pols are almost as laughable on this as the ones in Bama. There's a sign by the exit I use every day to get off I-4 for some guy running for Agriculture Commissioner. At the bottom of his picture he has three little phrases: "Family values!" "Free market!" "2nd Amendment!"

That's all it says.

Like why in the actual **** should I care what the Agriculture Commissioner thinks about the 2nd amendment???

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04-27-2017 , 07:33 PM

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So farm owners can be assured they'll be able to exercise their stand your ground and/or castle doctrine rights?

I'm assuming since he's for the "free market" he'll be working to deny Florida farmers any federal subsidy.

04-28-2017 , 03:12 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by pvn

"Alabama the Beautiful" is the state motto. It's not just random words some redneck put on a sign.

How do you tell an Alabama state legislator apart from "some redneck"?

04-28-2017 , 11:41 AM

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Does it matter?

04-28-2017 , 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by RV Life

Also, notice the car in front? The driver drove past the sign, said "WTF?", pulled over and took a picture.

So your favorite part of Alabama is misreading a sign and pointing out that the driver of another vehicle undoubtedly made the same mistake that you made?

That'll teach 'em

04-28-2017 , 06:10 PM

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These monuments represent "The Lost Cause," not real history.

Alabama House passes monument preservation bill after heated debate
http://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/201..._monument.html

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After a prolonged and heated debate, the Alabama House voted Thursday to pass a bill that makes it tougher to remove monuments and historically significant structures from public property.

The Alabama Memorial Preservation Act would make the removal of any monuments on public land subject to approval by the Committee on Alabama Monument Protection, a body that the bill would create. The bill passed the House by a vote of 72-29 after nearly three hours of debate.

Several Democrats said the bill was offensive because it helps preserve Confederate monuments. They pointed out that the legislation was first introduced after then-Gov. Robert Bentley removed the Confederate flag from the state Capitol.

"My people suffered," said Rep. Jackson, D-Thomasville. "Don't bring back those harsh memories that we went through so much to overcome."

Rep. Mack Butler, R-Rainbow City, the House sponsor of the bill, stressed that the legislation does not only cover monuments but also "architecturally significant buildings," such as the state Capitol.

Rep. Alvin Holmes, D-Montgomery, said he wasn't buying that argument as motivation for the bill.

"You all in Alabama are trying to live in the past. Man, the Civil War is over with. The South lost the Civil War. I don't care how bad you wanted to win," he said, adding, "This house is getting a little more racist than I thought it would be."

Democrats also said they were angered that the bill was the first on the calendar, and that nearly three hours of the legislature's time was spent debating it.

"This type of legislation ... continues to put Alabama in a negative light, which it is known for racism, discrimination," said Rep. Juandalynn Givan, D-Birmingham. She said Bloody Sunday is what Alabama is best known for "other than Alabama and Auburn football."

Rep. John Knight, D-Montgomery, shared that sentiment.

"I know history's history, and everyone wants to appreciate their history, but... some things we have to put in the past," he said. "We gain nothing by it."

Knight tried to convince Butler that the bill would not help his legacy.

"You will go down in history, Rep. Butler," King said. "Your grandchildren were read about you sponsoring this bill in this house..."

Rep. Napoleon Bracy, D-Prichard, said the bill inflames tensions.

"Stuff like this directly divides us down the middle," he said. "People that sponsor bills like this don't care about me."

The Senate passed a different version of the bill last month, so the House version will head to the upper chamber to reconcile the differences.

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