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12-28-2017 , 11:04 AM

#3351

Namath12

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Money2Burn

NYT reporting Moore moved to block certification of the election.
Alabama elected this guy to their Supreme Court twice, lol.

The bolded is a shining example of why state supreme court seats should NEVER NEVER NEVER EVER be filled by partisan election.

12-28-2017 , 11:15 AM

#3352

Chips Ahoy

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Loki

Maybe Alabama has a provision still on the books that an old white racist who loses because of the black vote can get the courts to only count black votes as worth 3/5ths or white votes?

Edit

Guess not.

The spirit of the founders says the election is legitimate as long as you don't disenfranchise more than 40% of black voters.

12-28-2017 , 12:51 PM

#3353

fatkid

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Roy Moore files complaint to block Alabama Senate result says he will touch more kids if he is not declared the winner.

12-28-2017 , 01:53 PM

#3354

PoppaTMan

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Gotta imagine those donor lists are getting pounded daily at this point.

12-28-2017 , 02:50 PM

#3355

JPantz

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Rejected.

12-28-2017 , 03:00 PM

#3356

w00t

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Roy Moore, the gift that keeps on giving.

12-28-2017 , 03:10 PM

#3357

Original Position

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Quote:

Originally Posted by stinkubus

Original Position seems to want one. That's what I was talking about.

Not really. My original question was about Loki's view of the legitimacy of the Alabama election. I inferred from his comments before the election that he didn't think it was legitimate and I wanted to know, given the results, if that was still his view and why. If I misunderstood how Loki was using the word "rigged" or "fix," and he didn't mean to imply that the election was illegitimate, my question is moot.

12-28-2017 , 03:18 PM

#3358

rockfsh

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This is why polygraphs are not accurate enough to be admitted as evidence in court.
Note that he did not submit the actual test results or state that he only took one test

Last edited by rockfsh; 12-28-2017 at 03:23 PM.

12-28-2017 , 03:31 PM

#3359

Loki

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Didn’t Moore say he actually knew some of the women originally?

12-28-2017 , 03:38 PM

#3360

rockfsh

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Loki

Didn’t Moore say he actually knew some of the women originally?

He is limiting this to those named in the affidavit. Maybe he means "know" in the biblical sense. He never got that far.

Why didn't he offer to take a polygraph before the election?

12-28-2017 , 03:39 PM

#3361

MvdB

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Loki

Didn’t Moore say he actually knew some of the women originally?

There were also many more accusers. He’s implicitly saying he only passed the test for three of them.

12-28-2017 , 03:57 PM

#3362

Namath12

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rockfsh

This is why polygraphs are not accurate enough to be admitted as evidence in court.
Note that he did not submit the actual test results or state that he only took one test

Polygraphs are also eminently beatable. This American Life had a story this past summer about a guy named Doug Williams who spent half his life administering them (as a cop) before disavowing them completely, and he tells you right there in the episode how to reliably beat one. He was also instrumental in getting the Employee Polygraph Protection Act passed. Later he wound up in federal prison for (allegedly) helping someone beat a polygraph.

Definitely worth a listen if you're into such things:

https://www.thisamericanlife.org/rad...r-lie-detector

http://polygraph.com/

12-28-2017 , 04:02 PM

#3363

bigt2k4

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Namath12

The guys on Mythbusters tried using a bunch of tactics to beat them and couldn't

12-28-2017 , 04:03 PM

#3364

gobbo

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Cliffs: Clench your butt when answering.

12-28-2017 , 04:16 PM

#3365

cuserounder

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MvdB

There were also many more accusers. He’s implicitly saying he only passed the test for three of them.

Good enough for his supporters to say "But he passed a lie detector! HE'S INNOCENT!"

Never mind that he never provided the results.

12-28-2017 , 04:51 PM

#3366

PartyGirlUK

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12-28-2017 , 05:01 PM

#3367

iron81

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"Alabama Association of Polygraph Examiners"

Real or Onion?

12-28-2017 , 05:04 PM

#3368

cuserounder

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That was like a non-concession concession.

I think this clown is going to start a church and get rich off of the offering plate. o/u 6 months until "Reverend Roy 'The Judge' Moore" is making appearances on Fox?

12-28-2017 , 09:00 PM

#3369

fatboy8

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Originally Posted by cuserounder

Under, by about 5 months. I expect to see him on Fox, and possibly even his own show, by February.

12-28-2017 , 10:00 PM

#3370

PoppaTMan

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Fox may have no scruples, but they ain't stupid. You can get a similar message without his baggage from any number of places.

12-29-2017 , 09:43 AM

#3371

tomdemaine

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The baggage is the message. The tribal signal that 'we hate liberals so much that we'll pay this disgusting backward evil pedophile millions because he upsets them'.