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07-21-2008 , 11:41 AM

#76

NewTeaBag

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Quote:

Originally Posted by crzylgs

Okay, cool. Now where do we put the waste?

So we can solve the ridiculous problems associated with land usage/destruction for wind/solar power, and their associated cost inneficies.

We can solve the loss of arable land/food for biofuels problem.

We can solve other humoungous problems for massiv eissues, but we CAN'T solve that one?

SRSLY, there do exist solutions. What does NOT exist is the politcal or mental will to implement them. NIMBY mofos.

Who kicked the legs out of the Yucca MTN project?

07-21-2008 , 01:52 PM

#77

IsaacW

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I always found the idea of there being nuclear "waste" a little amusing. If it's still giving off energy in the form of radiation then we ought to be capturing that and using it to generate electricity/heat. Only when the stuff is completely inert should we be throwing it away.

07-21-2008 , 02:22 PM

#78

jah7_fsu1

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Did anyone catch Gore on Meet the Press? I think I like him way more now than I ever have. Sure, you could say he is pushing some agenda, but he is really passionate about things, much more now than he seemed (IMO) as a politician. I also like (despite him being a Dem) him staying out of the political arena. He believes this issues are beyond the usual partisan can't get **** done crap. Brokaw was baiting him ala Russert and he nailed pretty much every answer. It was a good interview.

07-21-2008 , 03:57 PM

#79

mozillaman1

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Originally Posted by jah7_fsu1

Funny how...

Quote:

"He believes this issues are beyond the usual partisan can't get **** done crap"

...and yet still pushes for [massive would be a good adjective, no?] government regulations to solve the problem.

from a quick skim...
- Unified National Grid
- helping our struggling auto giants
- adequate provisions to assist those Americans who would unfairly face hardship
- a cap on CO2 emissions (plus corp carbon taxes)

lol

Quote:

Of course the greatest obstacle to meeting the challenge of 100 percent renewable electricity in 10 years may be the deep dysfunction of our politics and our self-governing system as it exists today. In recent years, our politics has tended toward incremental proposals made up of small policies designed to avoid offending special interests, alternating with occasional baby steps in the right direction. Our democracy has become sclerotic at a time when these crises require boldness.

let's replace smaller regulations that don't work with bigger regulations.

edit: Forgot to mention that he has a lot of intere$t in "green regulation"...people's choice theory?

07-21-2008 , 04:00 PM

#80

crzylgs

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Originally Posted by IsaacW

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spent_nuclear_fuel

07-21-2008 , 04:49 PM

#81

jah7_fsu1

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mozillaman1

Funny how...

...and yet still pushes for [massive would be a good adjective, no?] government regulations to solve the problem.

from a quick skim...
- Unified National Grid
- helping our struggling auto giants
- adequate provisions to assist those Americans who would unfairly face hardship
- a cap on CO2 emissions (plus corp carbon taxes)

lol
let's replace smaller regulations that don't work with bigger regulations.

edit: Forgot to mention that he has a lot of intere$t in "green regulation"...people's choice theory?

Not really the point I was making. He thinks HE is in a better position as someone not in office to advance these. Obv. he (like many others) are going to think gov't is one of the best ways to achieve this. He simply thinks more will get done if he isn't tied politically to an administration or whatever in a specific role. How are you not seeing that? "I'm a Republican and I think this" is always going to meet with half the people thinking it is a bad idea. It's sad but true.

07-21-2008 , 04:56 PM

#82

adios

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Quote:

Originally Posted by crzylgs

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spent_nuclear_fuel

There's a good op ed piece in todays WSJ covering the issue of spent nuclear fuel and how France handles the waste.

07-21-2008 , 05:13 PM

#83

TheOneWizard

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Quote:

Originally Posted by crzylgs

This is a joke right? I was pretty sure after the first sentence but by the end I was a little confused.

What's wrong with off-world storage solutions as a long-term answer?

07-21-2008 , 05:23 PM

#84

obsidian

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Even entertaining the idea that we would be storing this crap for 1000 years, much less a million, is quite laughable. And yes, I know that is how long it could take for enough half lives to pass.

07-21-2008 , 05:34 PM

#85

IsaacW

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Originally Posted by adios

There's a good op ed piece in todays WSJ covering the issue of spent nuclear fuel and how France handles the waste.

It's what makes bleu cheese bleu, right?

07-21-2008 , 06:04 PM

#86

bobman0330

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Originally Posted by obsidian

Even entertaining the idea that we would be storing this crap for 1000 years, much less a million, is quite laughable. And yes, I know that is how long it could take for enough half lives to pass.

Yeah, exactly. In 100 years, people will be much richer and more technically adept than we are. Let them worry about it.

07-21-2008 , 06:23 PM

#87

SenorKeeed

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Originally Posted by The once and future king

Yo, I want someone regulating that ****.

Im not preperaed to gamble on the idea that the market would take care of it.

One meltdown can potentially kill millions.

I agree unless the nuclear plant did not have limited liability.