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10-13-2015 , 11:45 PM

#4126

rjoefish

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I wasn't able to really follow the thread but have you all talked about how 'I represented Wall Street' is gonna be a regret for Hilldawg?

10-13-2015 , 11:46 PM

#4127

SuqAta8

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Quote:

Originally Posted by plzd0nate

Can someone find a poll that Hillary won? Because I can't. How did she win the debate if she doesn't win a single poll about the debate. Everyone in this thread knows Hillary is fos. Why do you guys assume others don't feel the same. She only has 40% of the vote. 60% of the other democrats probably do not like her or else they would already be behind her because she's done this before and everyone knows her.

cnn's focus group overwhelmingly believes she will win

10-13-2015 , 11:46 PM

#4128

seattlelou

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Originally Posted by anatta

I think the chances of biden getting in drop after this. So that is bad for bernie. I do think bernie did great and u see why he has become something of a contender.

Agree that Biden got hurt. I thought Sanders sucked hard though.

10-13-2015 , 11:47 PM

#4129

seattlelou

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Frank lutz group liked Hillary's performance.

10-13-2015 , 11:48 PM

#4130

ALLTheCookies

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Quote:

Originally Posted by plzd0nate

Is this your first election? She didn't win the debate, that doesn't necessarily mean she will lose massive ground to Bernie. This isn't the Republican primary.

10-13-2015 , 11:49 PM

#4131

TimmayB

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For the first time I think Bernie has a nonzero shot at the nom. Hillary still getting it like all the time barring something new popping up with the emails or some random ****.

Will vote for whichever in the general and thought both did just fine-very good at times tonight.

10-13-2015 , 11:50 PM

#4132

plzd0nate

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SuqAta8

cnn's focus group overwhelmingly believes she will win

Lol wow cnn's focus group thought Mrs. Establishment won, big surprise! Let me guess the other talking heads are saying the same thing. Why do you guys value these opinions? You all openly admit she is fos on all of these things. But then you say she did good, I don't understand that.

10-13-2015 , 11:50 PM

#4133

Mayo

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I'm going to start using "My dad had just died" as my go-to excuse for everything, though. So I guess something good came out of this.

10-13-2015 , 11:50 PM

#4134

seattlelou

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Originally Posted by ALLTheCookies

Is this your first election? She didn't win the debate, that doesn't necessarily mean she will lose massive ground to Bernie. This isn't the Republican primary.

She won the debate.

10-13-2015 , 11:50 PM

#4135

22riverrat22

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Originally Posted by AsianNit

Feingold is running to reclaim his Senate seat from Ron Johnson. If he hadn't lost in 2010, we could have been looking at a Feingold presidential run this year, which I would have supported enthusiastically.

he would definitely be a good choice

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wooders0n

Bernie begging for money not a great way to finish there

Quote:

Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl

Yea he was going strong until the pledge drive pitch.

oh god im glad i wasnt the only one who cringed at that, totally tanked his credibility there in my opinion

have to close strong with your message not anything that plugs a .com

10-13-2015 , 11:51 PM

#4136

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Also can't believe how no one that I saw mentioned that Chaffe looks like an irl vampire.

10-13-2015 , 11:54 PM

#4137

SuqAta8

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Quote:

Originally Posted by plzd0nate

where did i say she did good?

you asked for a poll that supported hillary, and i gave you one

10-13-2015 , 11:54 PM

#4138

Chill-Brahck

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rjoefish

I wasn't able to really follow the thread but have you all talked about how 'I represented Wall Street' is gonna be a regret for Hilldawg?

I thought this was notable. This is by far the biggest distinguishing factor between Bernie and Hillary. If Campaign financing ever gets pushed as one of the bigger issues in this primary she will very much regret that line.

10-13-2015 , 11:54 PM

#4139

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Originally Posted by TimmayB

Also can't believe how no one that I saw mentioned that Chaffe looks like an irl vampire.

True.

10-13-2015 , 11:54 PM

#4140

anatta

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The "i rep'd wall st" didnt seem like a bug deal to me. Wall st is in new york so she was the senator for most all if them. Sure its awkward, but not corps are people my friend. Which republican is going to say she is too close to wall st? She might be, but that seems better than when they call u a commie. Like she can say ok republican, u wanna go there and see who is the bigger socialist pinko to take on wall st cuz i can go both ways, im a clinton

10-13-2015 , 11:55 PM

#4141

Tien

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So Hillary president and Bernie as vice president. Or even vice versa.

Republicans have zero chance considering the roster they are fielding.

10-13-2015 , 11:55 PM

#4142

ALLTheCookies

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Quote:

Originally Posted by seattlelou

She won the debate.

I was trying to avoid nuance. She won because she's the overwhelming favorite and didn't **** her pants. She lost because Bernie didn't **** his pants.

10-13-2015 , 11:57 PM

#4143

Chill-Brahck

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Quote:

Originally Posted by anatta

Well if she gets the nomination this will be a non-issue. Bernie is the only threat to her on this issue.

10-13-2015 , 11:57 PM

#4144

Mayo

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Originally Posted by BernieFanBoy

its the voters perception of the candidates. of course it matters. people who just watched that whole thing are a lock to vote in the primary and general.

Of course it matters what debate viewers thought. But it doesn't matter at all who "won" the debate. Questions like "Are you more/less likely to vote for Candidate A based on their debate performance?" matter. But "In your opinion, who won the debate?" is not that question. The latter is a useless question.

And an online flash poll about who won the debate is the most useless question imaginable.

10-14-2015 , 12:00 AM

#4145

Chill-Brahck

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BernieFanBoy

its the voters perception of the candidates. of course it matters. people who just watched that whole thing are a lock to vote in the primary and general.

I can't name a single person that I know who I can say for sure has voted in a primary.

Not saying none of them do, but you're greatly overestimating the likelihood of debate viewers voting in their primary.

10-14-2015 , 12:01 AM

#4146

steelhouse

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Winner of the Debate

1. Lincoln Chaffee
2. Martin O'Malley
3. Jim Webb, when he needed extended time said nothing
4. Hillary Clinton, no mind only opinion polls.
5. Bernie Sanders, biggest military threat - global warming

Due to the extreme fails by Sanders and Clinton, the 2 should drop out of race.

10-14-2015 , 12:01 AM

#4147

Huehuecoyotl

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ALLTheCookies

I was trying to avoid nuance. She won because she's the overwhelming favorite and didn't turn into a lizard person.

Fyp

10-14-2015 , 12:03 AM

#4148

SuqAta8

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i wasnt too pleased with hillary's response to the snowden prompt

seems like shes an overwhelming proponent of malum prohibitum, or am i missing something

10-14-2015 , 12:07 AM

#4149

2OutsNoProb

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Originally Posted by nyc999

Facebook is filled with young people who love his message and won't show up on Election Day (or are not old enough to vote)

The latter part no, since I doubt there are a significant number of people 17 and under who paid attention to this tonight, but yes, young people are utterly miserable when it comes to showing up on Election Day. It's disgraceful. If they actually did manage to get their asses out the door to vote, the GOP would cease to exist in most states.

10-14-2015 , 12:10 AM

#4150

rjoefish

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Steelhouse thinks the guy who said 'I voted that way because I was new and had no experience but my dad had just died and they handed me his seat, plus they were all voting for it too' did well

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